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Old 09-14-2020, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by savedbythevnav
Whether or not he agrees with the union stance doesn't change my view on him as a person. His viewpoints on people are questionable and his approach at handling them are arguably worse.

Do I wish his situation upon him? Absolutely not.
Do I have sympathy for him? Absolutely not.
What are his viewpoints on people that make him so bad?
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Old 09-16-2020, 02:47 PM
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You guys are rich. Conformity to you is a dirty word. Your individualism stops the moment you sign in for work until you punch out, it's that simple.
dont condemn the person for bringing your violations to your attention. Did not the teachers in elementary teach you responsibility.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
You guys are rich. Conformity to you is a dirty word. Your individualism stops the moment you sign in for work until you punch out, it's that simple.
dont condemn the person for bringing your violations to your attention. Did not the teachers in elementary teach you responsibility.
What in the ever living hell are you talking about?
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:07 PM
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While I don’t agree with MJ’s approach for help (why not just pick up the phone?) there is certainly nothing funny about his situation, I wish him the best. MJ also happens to be a staunch ALPA supporter.
Uh-oh. What's his issue now?
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Old 09-17-2020, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
You guys are rich. Conformity to you is a dirty word. Your individualism stops the moment you sign in for work until you punch out, it's that simple.
dont condemn the person for bringing your violations to your attention. Did not the teachers in elementary teach you responsibility.
hey boomer did you mean to reply to the Occupy Democrats Facebook page instead? We can point you in the right direction if you need help.
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Old 09-17-2020, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSCUM
What are his viewpoints on people that make him so bad?
After seeing several of his tirades I've simply come to the conclusion that nothing is ever good enough. Specifically for me is his viewpoints on women in the workplace that turned me off. It also got him banned from a couple OO FB pages.

Some people change; maybe it isn't too late for him.
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Old 09-17-2020, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Flymeaway
I have to assume you're talking about the various comments about whether or not we want/need a union at OO. I will grant you that there are comments about what unions at other carriers are able to accomplish used as evidence as what we could expect from one here. That is not close to disdain for another pilot group for being unionized. I do read the SAPA forums, and I've never seen anything like that.

that’s what I meant. They don’t want Alpa because they don’t want to have to pay for the gains that Alpa gets them. I hate that a group we ride the coattails of Alpa while not paying for it.
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Old 09-17-2020, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by domino
that’s what I meant. They don’t want Alpa because they don’t want to have to pay for the gains that Alpa gets them. I hate that a group we ride the coattails of Alpa while not paying for it.
You can always just donate a percentage of your salary to ALPA national.
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Old 09-17-2020, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by domino
that’s what I meant. They don’t want Alpa because they don’t want to have to pay for the gains that Alpa gets them. I hate that a group we ride the coattails of Alpa while not paying for it.
We don't have access to the lawyers or the negotiators, so no we aren't parasites that benefitted at the expense of others. ALPA has contributed massively to safety intiatives which the entire public benefits from - do we expect the public to pony up? We still pay taxes for the FAA whose presence curbs managment greed. St george pays for KCM enrollment. Many OAL pilots rely on us to get them to work. Skywest aint a leech. Lastly, acute labor shortages have driven wage increases from 2014 on, pattern bargaining was a lagging indicator. But I'm probably still missing something.
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Old 09-17-2020, 06:31 PM
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Well said.
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