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Old 04-21-2023, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by klondike
Can any SkyWest pilot here shed any light on how likely to hold BOI out of training, or how long to hold BOI
as a new hire.

Also, how many years to hold BOI as a Captain.

Thanks everyone in advance.
Since it's a maintenance base most of the trips aren't commutable, therefore it doesn't go as senior as one might think. You pretty much need to live there. Turnover is so high you'd probably get it as a newhire and upgrade as soon as you meet mins. Coming in as a DEC, you are probably spending some time at another domicile.
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Since it's a maintenance base most of the trips aren't commutable, therefore it doesn't go as senior as one might think. You pretty much need to live there. Turnover is so high you'd probably get it as a newhire and upgrade as soon as you meet mins. Coming in as a DEC, you are probably spending some time at another domicile.
Thank You so much for the quick reply Utah.

the question wasn’t for me but some dude on YouTube who has 100 hours total flying time and thinks he’s got his whole career figured out already..

since it’s a MX base, how much flying out of there per month would one expect?
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Originally Posted by klondike
Thank You so much for the quick reply Utah.

the question wasn’t for me but some dude on YouTube who has 100 hours total flying time and thinks he’s got his whole career figured out already..

since it’s a MX base, how much flying out of there per month would one expect?
Lines are usually built to around 86-88 credit hours a month. If there is plenty of staffing that can be reduced some. It changes every month for every position/domicile. Maintenance bases usually have early morning report times on day one and release late on the last day of the trip. Hence the un-commutability. Where it becomes a problem is if your four-day trip only credits 18-20 hours and SkyWest needs you to fly 88, you can't get away with just four trips for the month.
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Originally Posted by Utah
Lines are usually built to around 86-88 credit hours a month. If there is plenty of staffing that can be reduced some. It changes every month for every position/domicile. Maintenance bases usually have early morning report times on day one and release late on the last day of the trip. Hence the un-commutability. Where it becomes a problem is if your four-day trip only credits 18-20 hours and SkyWest needs you to fly 88, you can't get away with just four trips for the month.
Many Thanks, Utah!

This YT dude lives in BOI.

He is 53. He has 125 total hours. Hasn’t flown since the 90’s.
He says he is going to Ohio soon to get all of his certificates and ratings “in four months tops” and says he will be at Skywest in a year flying out of BOI.
Then upgrade to CPT in a “year” after that- in BOI. Then “soon after, be a check airman training first officers.”

He says he’s doing all this because it’s a “part-time job” (14 days a month) making 200k a year.

I’ve tried to enlighten this fellow on reality- to little avail.

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Originally Posted by klondike
Many Thanks, Utah!

This YT dude lives in BOI.

He is 53. He has 125 total hours. Hasn’t flown since the 90’s.
He says he is going to Ohio soon to get all of his certificates and ratings “in four months tops” and says he will be at Skywest in a year flying out of BOI.
Then upgrade to CPT in a “year” after that- in BOI. Then “soon after, be a check airman training first officers.”

He says he’s doing all this because it’s a “part-time job” (14 days a month) making 200k a year.

I’ve tried to enlighten this fellow on reality- to little avail.

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I wouldn't laugh too hard. The lack of experience this pilot group has is astounding.
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I wouldn't laugh too hard. The lack of experience this pilot group has is astounding.

but at the rate of hiring and captain / instructor shortage. Its not to far fetched..
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Originally Posted by amcnd
but at the rate of hiring and captain / instructor shortage. Its not to far fetched..
That was my point. I think he's only off a little in his timing. When all of your First Officers are under 2500tt with less than 1000 part 121, and a significant portion of your Captains are under 3000-3500tt, getting here and becoming a LCA in Boise from zero time is only a few years away. 80+% of the current seniority list will move on in the next 2-3 years.
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I'm not disagreeing with the analysis of the YT situation above, however the idea that we reduce lineholder hours in slower months does not change the fact that we still work the same number of days per month. It's just that instead of crediting 5-6 hours per day, you'll get trips that credit 4:12 per day. That distinction is important for outsiders who think there is any direct correlation between monthly credit awards and days worked. While in the past we could get away with working shorter trips, now that pretty much everything is a 3- or 4-day trip (despite base surveys which clearly portray demand for shorter trips), everyone is working about 18 days per month regardless of what their line credit is.
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Originally Posted by TALPAtalker
I'm not disagreeing with the analysis of the YT situation above, however the idea that we reduce lineholder hours in slower months does not change the fact that we still work the same number of days per month. It's just that instead of crediting 5-6 hours per day, you'll get trips that credit 4:12 per day. That distinction is important for outsiders who think there is any direct correlation between monthly credit awards and days worked. While in the past we could get away with working shorter trips, now that pretty much everything is a 3- or 4-day trip (despite base surveys which clearly portray demand for shorter trips), everyone is working about 18 days per month regardless of what their line credit is.
Agreed. He'll typically be working way more than 14 days a month.
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Old 04-23-2023, 06:17 PM
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I’m sorry if this has already been answered, but what can a new hire expect for training timeline (ATP/CTP to starting IOE) ? Also, are there any breaks during training to go home and see family or is it pretty much straight through?
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