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Old 12-07-2022, 07:16 AM
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FWIW... I interviewed last week. I have no checkrides failures, a clean record, a bachelor's degree, am a minority (not that that should be a factor but it often is), and was told by the captain that I should feel great about my interview and he's confident I'd do well in training. Two days later, I got an email saying I wasn't selected.
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Old 12-07-2022, 07:27 AM
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Apparently it's getting more selective and candidates with more experience then 1000-1500 hours of instructing are being chosen, back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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Old 12-07-2022, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike4Foxtrot
FWIW... I interviewed last week. I have no checkrides failures, a clean record, a bachelor's degree, am a minority (not that that should be a factor but it often is), and was told by the captain that I should feel great about my interview and he's confident I'd do well in training. Two days later, I got an email saying I wasn't selected.
Sorry to hear that
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Old 12-07-2022, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike4Foxtrot
FWIW... I interviewed last week. I have no checkrides failures, a clean record, a bachelor's degree, am a minority (not that that should be a factor but it often is), and was told by the captain that I should feel great about my interview and he's confident I'd do well in training. Two days later, I got an email saying I wasn't selected.
Alarm bells on that...

Sounds like something came up on a background check. Not specifically the formal TSA/SIDA check but possibly something related to a reference check or social media?

I'd carefully consider who you're using for references. Might even go so far as to have a friend call your references and pretend to be someone considering you for employment, just to see what they say. You also don't necessarily have to use a specific person as a reference... if you're not sure about the CP, maybe use a different supervisor or HR person if possible.

Hopefully you haven't burned any bridges in aviation, it's a small world. Even if your employer is garbage, make nice with them even as you're out the door. And check in occasionally just to say hi for as long as they're a significant employment reference... that could be until you're at your desired major, or ten years.

Look at your PRD, and do a FOIA request on ALL of your FAA and NDR records.


Check your social media... anything hateful, extreme, or edgy could be a problem. Or fringe politics which includes about 30% on either side these days. Also hopefully you don't have a history of public commentary about past employers, unless it's very positive.
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Old 12-07-2022, 04:32 PM
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That post should be required reading.
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Old 12-07-2022, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Alarm bells on that...

Sounds like something came up on a background check. Not specifically the formal TSA/SIDA check but possibly something related to a reference check or social media?

I'd carefully consider who you're using for references. Might even go so far as to have a friend call your references and pretend to be someone considering you for employment, just to see what they say. You also don't necessarily have to use a specific person as a reference... if you're not sure about the CP, maybe use a different supervisor or HR person if possible.

Hopefully you haven't burned any bridges in aviation, it's a small world. Even if your employer is garbage, make nice with them even as you're out the door. And check in occasionally just to say hi for as long as they're a significant employment reference... that could be until you're at your desired major, or ten years.

Look at your PRD, and do a FOIA request on ALL of your FAA and NDR records.


Check your social media... anything hateful, extreme, or edgy could be a problem. Or fringe politics which includes about 30% on either side these days. Also hopefully you don't have a history of public commentary about past employers, unless it's very positive.
I don't really know. I know all of my references would have been positive and reliable.

The social media thing could be a thing as I do have some pictures that could be considered PG but that was a while ago and I doubt the captain went straight to my social media after the interview. Besides, I don't think a few shirtless pictures from a few years back would prevent me from getting hired. I hardly even use social media now anyways.

I'll look into anything bizarre that might be on my record but I doubt it since I already have three other class dates. It's not a big deal but I'd been monitoring this thread so figured I'd share my experience. Anyways, good luck to everyone else and hopefully see you at the majors!

Thanks for the input.
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Old 12-07-2022, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Alarm bells on that...

Sounds like something came up on a background check. Not specifically the formal TSA/SIDA check but possibly something related to a reference check or social media?

I'd carefully consider who you're using for references. Might even go so far as to have a friend call your references and pretend to be someone considering you for employment, just to see what they say. You also don't necessarily have to use a specific person as a reference... if you're not sure about the CP, maybe use a different supervisor or HR person if possible.

Hopefully you haven't burned any bridges in aviation, it's a small world. Even if your employer is garbage, make nice with them even as you're out the door. And check in occasionally just to say hi for as long as they're a significant employment reference... that could be until you're at your desired major, or ten years.

Look at your PRD, and do a FOIA request on ALL of your FAA and NDR records.


Check your social media... anything hateful, extreme, or edgy could be a problem. Or fringe politics which includes about 30% on either side these days. Also hopefully you don't have a history of public commentary about past employers, unless it's very positive.
Great post.
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Old 12-07-2022, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike4Foxtrot
I don't really know. I know all of my references would have been positive and reliable.

The social media thing could be a thing as I do have some pictures that could be considered PG but that was a while ago and I doubt the captain went straight to my social media after the interview. Besides, I don't think a few shirtless pictures from a few years back would prevent me from getting hired. I hardly even use social media now anyways.

I'll look into anything bizarre that might be on my record but I doubt it since I already have three other class dates. It's not a big deal but I'd been monitoring this thread so figured I'd share my experience. Anyways, good luck to everyone else and hopefully see you at the majors!

Thanks for the input.
At SkyWest the ladies in HR will follow up with your references. I don’t think most regionals actually go through with that.

Did you call/text/email each reference and ask? Some people take it personal when you use them as a reference but don’t ask for their permission.

It also sounds like you have some Facebook pictures that need to be removed. It’s not difficult to remove pictures from your social media accounts. It’s as simple as untagging yourself from the photo. I’ve heard of an airline that starts with a D actually print off self incriminating photos from your social media accounts and show them to you during the interview process wanting an explanation.
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Old 12-08-2022, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike4Foxtrot
I don't really know. I know all of my references would have been positive and reliable.
That's good.

Originally Posted by Mike4Foxtrot
The social media thing could be a thing as I do have some pictures that could be considered PG but that was a while ago and I doubt the captain went straight to my social media after the interview. Besides, I don't think a few shirtless pictures from a few years back would prevent me from getting hired. I hardly even use social media now anyways.
I doubt it was the interview CA who looked at SM, if they even do that (major airlines absolutely do), more likely it would be HR.

Shirtless pics are probably OK, but it's more about the context. Who are the other people associated with your SM? If it's a lot of edgy or sketchy looking people, OO is a pretty conservative company. Delta revoked a CJO a few years ago because they found a pic of a kid on SM with a group of his friends... it wasn't his pic and he didn't post it, but it showed up on his feed. He was standing in front of the group, and somebody was holding up a bong in the back. The guy didn't know about the bong, didn't take the pic, or post the pic. Still lost his CJO.

Originally Posted by Mike4Foxtrot
I'll look into anything bizarre that might be on my record but I doubt it since I already have three other class dates. It's not a big deal but I'd been monitoring this thread so figured I'd share my experience.
Good to hear.

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Anyways, good luck to everyone else and hopefully see you at the majors!
I would still try to get to the bottom of it, check everything you can. OO is probably the most conservative regional, you can say "eff 'em, I've got other offers"... but most majors are even more conservative. I'd clean up the SM if at all possible.
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Old 12-08-2022, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Str8 Cash Homie
Did you call/text/email each reference and ask? Some people take it personal when you use them as a reference but don’t ask for their permission.
Yes, good point.

Also when you ask permission you can get a sense for how they feel about doing it... if they're not enthusiastic, don't use them.

Sounds like the OP's refs are good though.
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