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Old 09-07-2022, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TipTanks
Envoy opening a PHX base...encroaching on OO territory.

Does this make PHX OO 175 base more likely? Less likely? Same sort of likely?

How many PHX based OO pilots just scheduled their interview/orientation?


Also, the seniority list clerk got back from labor day....another 40+ gone from OO over the weekend...OOF.
Envoy are creeping closer out West.

If they get more flying and a base on the West Coast such as LAX I can't even imagine what OO will have left to offer anyone if they won't pay equivalent rates, which by all accounts they will not. I know the Kool-aid crowd will still run with the "BuT wE ArE EmPloYer Of ChOicE" line but realistically it doesn't matter how many jets are on property and fully paid for, nor how many 10 year contracts are signed if no one is around to fly them.

Better hope this revised TA is so good it causes one to lose consciousness at the very sight of its magnificence or the bleed will continue and probably speed up.
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Old 09-07-2022, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TipTanks
August 1 2022 size: 5160

September 1 2022 size: 4976

CA gone: 123

FO gone: 144

Total Gone: 267

Total Hired: 83

Net change: -184
Wow!! No bueno.
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Old 09-07-2022, 05:44 PM
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Don’t follow airplane orders closely, anyone know if we have AA 175 coming our way any time soon?
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Old 09-07-2022, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream
Don’t follow airplane orders closely, anyone know if we have AA 175 coming our way any time soon?
there’s like 20 of them already, on the line. Where have you been?
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Old 09-08-2022, 07:03 AM
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Envoy had a LAX base before. Didn’t really effect things. Was super senior…. (I know, i was there on reserve) I feel this is more of a fan out to cover flying Mesa may, or may not be able to do…
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Old 09-08-2022, 08:28 AM
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Default TA 2.0 is Finished

TA 2.0 is finished following a meeting between the SAPA NC and management in SGU earlier this week.

On the weekly SAPA conference call it was shared that the revised TA is being presented to all of SAPA tonight and if approved it will be made available to the pilot group on Monday.

“Maybe earlier than Monday. I mean gosh we’re going to be working all weekend on the presentation. So if we can get it done sooner we’ll share it sooner. But Monday is sort of a goal for me. Maybe late Monday night. You know. We’ll be working on the PowerPoint all weekend and we don’t want to half ass it. So Monday is a personal goal for me. Also I have to go to DC next week for a safety conference and I want to be able to hold my head high around our peers,” said SAPA President AA.

No details of the TA were shared but AA added, “We’ve worked on the main points that the group came back with. But you need to keep it in the realm…er…you know we’re not going to get 5 or 6 hour MDG. That’s just not market.”

The conference call was ended after taking one question from the participants, which asked if a summary of the changes to the TA could be shared sooner than 5 days after approval. This suggestion was summarily rejected.

Meanwhile, SkyWest pilots are actively pursuing ALPA representation that would aim to provide more accountable, transparent and professional pilot representation. Sign up to get regular updates here: https://bit.ly/alpaforOO

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Old 09-09-2022, 02:34 PM
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Default Per Diem?

What is per diem based on? Is it $2 at TAFB, duty, credit or some other metric?

Why don't I see any discussion on wanting it raised (along with pay) with the next TA?

New to 121 so thanks in advance for the answers.
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Old 09-09-2022, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TwOtter
What is per diem based on? Is it $2 at TAFB, duty, credit or some other metric?

Why don't I see any discussion on wanting it raised (along with pay) with the next TA?

New to 121 so thanks in advance for the answers.
Are you in the SAPA Forums?
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Old 09-09-2022, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TALPAtalker
Are you in the SAPA Forums?
If they’ve been here less than 6 months or a year they’re not allowed in the sapa forums….
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Old 09-09-2022, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TipTanks
If they’ve been here less than 6 months or a year they’re not allowed in the sapa forums….
And that really bothers me. Is it the Skywest Airline Pilot Association or the Partial Skywest association? Why are are type-rated qualified pilots excluded from communications?
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