Floy

It was more than I expected by a long shot. But I'm still leaving and I'm at the top of that scale

MisterNarwhal

1420ish hour CFI here. Just got my AA WO date a week ago. My start date is just over a month out.

domino

throwing money at the audience isn’t the solution when they said they want QOL changes. You can make $238 an hour as an FO at a legacy carrier and have 20 days off. $185 an hour with 13 days off is nonsense. Won’t stop the bleeding. Most they can hope for is to struggle on for the few years regionals have left.

exPhrogMarine

I know most people want more QOL, but for me it was all about the pay scale; honestly, I was hoping for more. The per diem being used as a bargaining chip to take away bonuses was asinine! Our pd went up 7.5% and we haven’t had it raised since 2018, this falls way behind COL increases by itself, and now we lose bonuses too? Pd will be locked in for 4 more years to come also.

I’m not a hard ‘no’, simply because I know that this will always be a regional airline. If I am afforded the opportunity to move on I will. I might vote ‘yes’ just for the sake of taking what we can get versus waiting another 6 months to get who-knows-what.

flightvector

May I ask when you interviewed?

CFIsoonToBeFO

ATP/CTP DATE or Orientation/InDoc date. We’re you a Cadet too? Congratulations

A318

Hey everyone -

I ended up busting my KV (I’m on the ERJ side). Pretty bummed about it as I was one question away from passing according to my APD, but it is what it is. I successfully got retrained and signed off to try again. Unfortunately a large number of folks are busting the KV, I’ve been told the number is substantial, around half. Not sure how true that is, but for some unscientific data, about half the classmates I talked to got an unsat unfortunately.

I unfortunately also have two primary training failures, along with this KV bust. How screwed am I for my career in the future? My end goal is United (realistically any legacy but United would be the best in my opinion), and I’m sure this means I’ll have a tougher time moving on. Does anyone have any advice on moving forward from this?

I understand we have the GPI program, would that help me out or can I still move forward after a while by going through a ULCC?

Finally, does this count as a checkride failure for the purpose of any internal positions (like the training department)? If I stuck around, built experience, and felt ready, I wouldn’t mind becoming a check airman if that helps my resume. Would this be a disqualifying factor?


Thanks everyone!

CareerPivot

Sorry to hear about the KV bust. Were you in DEN by chance? Was your APD being very release question heavy in the KV? If so, I hear he has a high failure rate (not that it's an excuse, but you're not alone).

A318

Thanks man. Yep I was in DEN, and was asked quite a lot of questions about the release. I asked around and it turns out 7/10 people who went to STL and about 50-60% of our class overall didn’t pass the KV the first time, I think it’s problematic but it is what it is.

herewego

What about the KV did you not understand, and how can you learn from the KV and how can those following behind you learn from your mistakes?
What system, FAR, or SOP items were most confusing and how could the instructors better prepared you?
Was there a common misconception among your classmates, or was it just something you should have studied but glossed over instead.

Don't worry right now about how this affects your future prospects and how to pad your resume. Worry about becoming the best FO you can. Learn from your captains, be present in the cockpit and keep your record as clean as possible and things will work out for themselves. Plenty of others have had setbacks and come out ahead.