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Old 08-23-2022, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by domino
this is just a short term fix. UA is killing off 50 seaters. This buys them time. Then commutair goes bye bye next year as the regional model continues to collapse.
I think C5 will be the last UAX regional left.
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Old 08-23-2022, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by liverpoollad
perfect exactly what I was looking for!
He's being sarcastic but not really. You don't need to do anything outside of exactly what they give you. Do what they give you and the rest will follow. The program works for a reason.
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Old 08-23-2022, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cj22312
Contracts out tomorrow boys, we’re all voting no and telling them to shove it right?
if only we got contracts rather than these policies they tell us to do.
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Old 08-23-2022, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Cj22312
Contracts out tomorrow boys, we’re all voting no and telling them to shove it right?
Let's read it first, we'll reconvene tomorrow evening.

At least they boxed themselves into a corner with the dates. No backing out now.
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Old 08-23-2022, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by liverpoollad
Title says it all. Done Indoc already, and finally going back to ground school. Feeling a little nervous, any words of advice? What to study most leading up to it? What to expect? What you wish someone told you.

Any and all advice is greatly appreciate, thank you!
Try to take as many notes on the CBTs as possible to the point you’re ready to just refine your Systems notes during Ground School.

Try to memorize your boxed QRC items, verbatim, and know where those boxed items are at on the cockpit poster.

Memorize the plane’s limitations.

And that’s it. Show up at Ground School with that done and you will be ahead of the game. Your instructors will teach you everything else you need to know. Trusting the process really works.
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Old 08-23-2022, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mazerRack
Did Envoy/PSA give them class dates right away? I've heard the new hire waitlist is 6-8 months long, but maybe it's different for new FOs who already have their type rating and ATP.
All of them had already passed LOE and were type-rated. I know that 3 of them are starting at Envoy in September. Not sure on the exact dates for the others. They all have finished IOE after their interviews and are still flying with the intent of dropping their two week notice soon.

I imagine Envoy is prioritizing entry for those with some Part 121 experience, but I am not knowledgeable on that so take this part with a grain of salt.
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Old 08-24-2022, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 123AB
All of them had already passed LOE and were type-rated. I know that 3 of them are starting at Envoy in September. Not sure on the exact dates for the others. They all have finished IOE after their interviews and are still flying with the intent of dropping their two week notice soon.

I imagine Envoy is prioritizing entry for those with some Part 121 experience, but I am not knowledgeable on that so take this part with a grain of salt.
Direct quote from their email when I (non-121 CFI) let them know I had my ATP mins:
We will notify you if anything opens up in the next few weeks so we can schedule you for ATP CTP then INDOC class.

Thank you for your patience as we process this high volume of pilots. We do not encourage you to leave your current job until we contact you via phone or email asking you for a start date.
/quote

"Don't quit your day job"
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Old 08-24-2022, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 123AB
Try to take as many notes on the CBTs as possible to the point you’re ready to just refine your Systems notes during Ground School.

Try to memorize your boxed QRC items, verbatim, and know where those boxed items are at on the cockpit poster.

Memorize the plane’s limitations.

And that’s it. Show up at Ground School with that done and you will be ahead of the game. Your instructors will teach you everything else you need to know. Trusting the process really works.
Awesome, thank you. This is very helpful. For some reason I was thinking the CBT's would be kind of a "just get them done" kinda thing, but it sounds like I should really use them and they go a lot in to systems. Good to know.
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Old 08-24-2022, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by liverpoollad
Awesome, thank you. This is very helpful. For some reason I was thinking the CBT's would be kind of a "just get them done" kinda thing, but it sounds like I should really use them and they go a lot in to systems. Good to know.
You're going to be a professional Airline pilot. Not a Joe Shmoe burning hours in the pattern just to move on to the next step. Nothing is "just get them done" anymore. Peoples lives are now in your hands.
Take every opportunity available take to make yourself more knowledgeable about your profession, your airplane and yourself.
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Old 08-24-2022, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by herewego
You're going to be a professional Airline pilot. Not a Joe Shmoe burning hours in the pattern just to move on to the next step. Nothing is "just get them done" anymore. Peoples lives are now in your hands.
Take every opportunity available take to make yourself more knowledgeable about your profession, your airplane and yourself.
A great reminder, thank you. I didn't mean to come off as dismissive of the CBT's, I think I just thought they were a little more like corporate HR stuff (which still matters). Anyways, I'm looking forward to the opportunity, just feeling a little nervous about it.
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