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Old 08-18-2022, 12:51 AM
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Has anyone gone through the KV for the 175 recently? If so, would anyone be willing to PM me their experience? I have mine soon and am looking to study up so I pass it. Thanks!
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Old 08-18-2022, 04:49 AM
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This isn't just a slap some new rates on the current PPM TA… this is a complete rewrite of some major QOL i bet.. Takes time to get it right. We all know the consequence of bad verbiage..With that being said. It better be done by “weeks end”…. :-(
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Old 08-18-2022, 06:43 AM
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This isn't just a slap some new rates on the current PPM TA… this is a complete rewrite of some major QOL i bet.. Takes time to get it right. We all know the consequence of bad verbiage..With that being said. It better be done by “weeks end”…. :-(
hah - I hope you are right. I’d be shocked if there are any QoL improvements.

QoL defined as more time off, lower line values and better ability to trade / drop
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Old 08-18-2022, 07:17 AM
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Has anyone gone through the KV for the 175 recently? If so, would anyone be willing to PM me their experience? I have mine soon and am looking to study up so I pass it. Thanks!
Read the study guide on the iPad.
Know your emergency Memory Items verbatim. Then be prepared to discuss what happens to the various systems as you do those items. Where is the pressurization dump button when you can't see it because of smoke?
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Old 08-18-2022, 09:29 AM
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Has anyone gone through the KV for the 175 recently? If so, would anyone be willing to PM me their experience? I have mine soon and am looking to study up so I pass it. Thanks!
Don't sweat it. You should be in Spirit new hire class by then
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Old 08-18-2022, 09:53 AM
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This isn't just a slap some new rates on the current PPM TA… this is a complete rewrite of some major QOL i bet.. Takes time to get it right. We all know the consequence of bad verbiage..With that being said. It better be done by “weeks end”…. :-(

The captain upgrade and retention bonus has been removed from the PPM
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:04 AM
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:11 AM
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The captain upgrade and retention bonus has been removed from the PPM
Maybe I misunderstand but it is just absolutely insane to me that the company can amend our agreement with the pilot group unilaterally. Love SAPA.
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:05 PM
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Maybe I misunderstand but it is just absolutely insane to me that the company can amend our agreement with the pilot group unilaterally. Love SAPA.
oh - they consult with SAPA on how to best communicate it. SAPA is more of a sounding board on what is the most palatable message to the pilot group - that’s it. Think of them as a focus group for message testing.

I have witnessed it first hand
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Old 08-18-2022, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by goodridecowboy
AA WO have already blown up the regional model. They are putting the other regionals out of business, slowly. This is why (in my opinion) the 135 exists: they know that they can't compete - there isn't a legacy there to back the losses incurred by $90/hr rates - and we will involuntarily shrink. In order to stay alive they will use retirees and 500tt FOs to keep the EAS flying alive but the 5500 deep seniority list OO is a thing of the past.

I'm expecting a middle of the road TA with 1st year pay in the $60 range and top out pay in $150 range. Anything more is probably unsustainable under the contracted rates. There will be a mass exodus, and there will be people that stay anyway. Whoever stays - that's the size of the new SkyWest. They understand they have to adapt or die right now, and I cannot see a world wherein SGU wants to compete side by side with an AA WO right now.
That is such a great perspective.
When you leave SkyWest it becomes easier to understand the company in the rear view mirror. You’re not getting wholly owned money folks. It’s not who they are or want to be. SkyWest loves being non-union, cutting edge cost savings regional delivery model kinda airline. Bar none. See that 135 ops chatter.

Save for the odd SLC senior CA demographic, everyone comes here to leave ASAP. That’s the model.

Captains truly are about to get paid. Chip said so. He must. They gave the FOs all the money last time and then got the new hires to ratify the thing. Which, OBTW, Chip told the training group was a mistake.
Everything negotiated is about getting to the other side of the pilot shortage. Which they will as a smaller company.
What IS scary is the median hours of FOs nowadays. Rumor has it in the 3 hundo range. I really would have hated to be a regional CA. Make it worthwhile!
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