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Old 06-21-2022, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAMIA
Has anyone heard of anyone getting hired at Frontier/Spirit without ATP, if not in a special program? I keep hearing about pilots being hired at Spirit/Frontier with only 1500 hours, straight from CFI…

Is it worth it to just pay for ATP myself and apply straight to Frontier/Spirit rather than a regional? I already have roughly 2000 hours and ATP-CTP done.
Look at Spirit’s hiring mins.

You won’t get an invite to a meet the chiefs without an ATP.
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Old 06-22-2022, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by R0GER BALL
Look at Spirit’s hiring mins.

You won’t get an invite to a meet the chiefs without an ATP.
And it’s doubtful you’ll get an offer if you don’t have turbine time.
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Old 06-22-2022, 12:21 PM
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Anyone have latest updates on training footprint to ioe... I start indoc in August ERJ
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Old 06-22-2022, 12:34 PM
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Anyone have latest updates on training footprint to ioe... I start indoc in August ERJ
Currently for the ERJ, Indoc to the start of IOE is 4 months.

Keep in mind things change all the time.
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Old 06-22-2022, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by R0GER BALL
Look at Spirit’s hiring mins.

You won’t get an invite to a meet the chiefs without an ATP.
Exactly my point. Unless you’re in a golden boy program, none of these people are going to call you unless you have some kind of combination of CTP completed, ATP, and prior turbine time.
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Old 06-22-2022, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TipTanks
Not correct.

Frontier hiring from ATP, ERAU, CAE Phoenix, Purdue....and probably others. They require ATP-CTP but Frontier is doing the original ATP Issuance. (or R-ATP).

From what I've seen/heard, they're not hiring CFIs off the street, but only from larger university or airline oriented flight schools.
No that is correct, and you are precisely making my point with your post. Unless you’re in the golden boy program, your Dad is BFF’s with the CEO, you’re not going to hear from a ULCC as Joe Schmoe pilot with a commercial license.
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Old 06-22-2022, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 123AB
Currently for the ERJ, Indoc to the start of IOE is 4 months.

Keep in mind things change all the time.
Thanks for the info! Hopefully change is my friend.
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Old 06-23-2022, 07:15 AM
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Anyone have latest updates on training footprint to ioe... I start indoc in August ERJ
Why aren’t you interviewing/going to Envoy, PSA, or Piedmont?
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Old 06-23-2022, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by notsureyet
Anyone have latest updates on training footprint to ioe... I start indoc in August ERJ
People that have recently gone through have seen Indoc then a 50% chance of an up to two week delay. Ground/Matrix then depending how you are able to bid your PT/SIM schedule you may have up to a month off. Some PT/SIM schedules have a bit of time off between PT and MT; could be 10 days-ish. IOE scheduling might throw some off time in there too... Mine scheduled out to be between 4 and 5 months start to finish.

My take, the off periods are nice to have; reset and study up for the next part of training. You get paid ~$1,500 gross twice a month, United travel benefits day one, Delta after 30 days (I think), some descent "leisure hotel" rates if you look around. It's been an easy/enjoyable existence for me.

I'll be the second to ask, "Why not Envoy, PSA, Piedmont?"
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People that have recently gone through have seen Indoc then a 50% chance of an up to two week delay. Ground/Matrix then depending how you are able to bid your PT/SIM schedule you may have up to a month off. Some PT/SIM schedules have a bit of time off between PT and MT; could be 10 days-ish. IOE scheduling might throw some off time in there too... Mine scheduled out to be between 4 and 5 months start to finish.

My take, the off periods are nice to have; reset and study up for the next part of training. You get paid ~$1,500 gross twice a month, United travel benefits day one, Delta after 30 days (I think), some descent "leisure hotel" rates if you look around. It's been an easy/enjoyable existence for me.

I'll be the second to ask, "Why not Envoy, PSA, Piedmont?"
Thanks for the update...I'm a RATP person..900 for 1000. I applied to Envoy two months ago and got a "come back later" ... PSA and Piedmont, applied minutes after the announcement and crickets so far.
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