v1rotatay

Senior LCA on ERJ, not leaving, thus are trained and doing LCA stuff.

Junior guys get LCA on CRJ and check the box on the app and get snatched up by majors leaving that major hole in the LCA's not being able to do training since they are gone shortly after getting signed off.

Nathanio

Anybody have any insight on which airframe would be the best choice for somebody looking to live in the DEN area? Haven't interviewed yet but most likely looking at a potential October class date. The seniority tab has roughly similar dates for holding a line as an FO out of DEN for both the CRJ and ERJ. I understand upgrade time would be shorter on the CRJ and I'm not sure how much that should weigh into my decision. COS is nearby (and driveable) with only CRJ's although SLC doesn't seem too much of a commute by plane and seems relatively junior for the ERJ. I also have family in Chicago I could crash with any time which seems junior for both. Initially was leaning towards the CRJ because of the upgrade time and have heard it's a better airframe to learn how to fly a jet but have recently thought with the longer wait for IOE and all else being relatively equal choose the nicer newer ERJ which may have better trips? Thanks in advance.

rjbusdriver

Most junior ERJ FO is in the 4500’s seniority number whereas most junior FO on the CRJ is a high 4700’s. For reference I was hired in December and my number is mid 4800’s out of around ~5,500 pilots or so. If you go CRJ you also have flexibility flying out of COS if for whatever reason it’s taking longer than expected to hold DEN. I would go CRJ but that’s my 02. cents as I’m on it and am a little biased towards it. Also bigger base out of DEN on the CRJ side vs the ERJ by about 60 FO’s. May not also be the case for you but I found CRJ classes were easier to get in earlier compared to the ERJ which may influence your decision too

goodridecowboy

RJBus makes some good points, also worth considering that the ERJ and CRJ are almost equal in seniority now - my understanding is that previously was not the case - and most of my class was told you'll be able to hold whatever base you want by the time you get to IOE. We're getting told 3-4 week wait on ERJ which is about 1/2 to 1/3 of what CRJ guys are expecting. Also worth noting that while the CRJ is probably a better jet to learn on, the ERJ is far more like modern jets, and I haven't done a 1:1 comparison but everyone says the ERJ pays better. Generally longer legs. I haven't heard of anyone doing the 8 leg days you'll do on the 200.

One last thing that may or may not matter to you. Pretty much the whole training footprint for the ERJ is done in DEN. Locals that had their cars here seemed to enjoy life a bit better than those of us walking to the taco place again. ERJ sims here, you can do CQ here, etc. Hope some of that helps.

R0GER BALL

8 leg days. Lol.
…..SkyWest Mainline!

Dream

After being crj and ERJ in den I’d definitely go ERJ and never look back. Easier trips, better layovers, no deferred apu’s, and if you’re worried about 60 ppl faster to hold Denver you’ll prob see 100+ senior to you leave in one month anyways.

anaqvi786

How long are class dates currently being offered after the interview? Also, what do current training delays look like?

123AB

Class dates are being offered 4-6 months out and along the way you might be offered an earlier class date if you meet the required minimums. Training delays are sporadic. Most make it through without any delay but a few get delayed a week or three. Currently, the wait for IOE is averaging 1-2 weeks for ERJ and about 10-13 weeks for CRJ. These are just averages, always subject to change of course.

Knotso

Memorial Day is the first company recognized holiday since I joined. PPM is vague on how this is handled. Any insights? Can you tell I'm bored waiting to fill all my training squares?!

rickair7777

I usually take a car to long-term training. Or at least a motorcycle, season permitting.

One time I had to do a few weeks of sim in the east; I'd rent on weekends.

Hate being stranded at XYZ Suites.