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Old 10-29-2021, 05:11 AM
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So running at zero reserve levels was the plan?

definitely has always been the plan.. just like pouring a concrete pad. You want just enough to pour the pad. Not much extra..
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Old 10-29-2021, 05:41 AM
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I don’t want to be a concrete pad anymore.
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Old 10-29-2021, 05:43 AM
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I don’t want to be a concrete pad anymore.

Lucky for you, movement at SkyWest is insane, so you don’t sit reserve for too long…….
Unless you want to.
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Old 10-29-2021, 07:46 AM
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Lucky for you, movement at SkyWest is insane, so you don’t sit reserve for too long…….
Unless you want to.
True, but appears we'll have to sit a bunch before IOE right now and the wait times are getting longer.

Any indication how the LCA numbers are holding up? Is the FAA dragging their feet on approvals or are they actually helping the situation by being proactive (can't believe I just said that about a gov't agency...lol).
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Old 10-29-2021, 10:48 AM
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Spirit just lowered its hiring minimums (1,500 total time), it’s starting earlier than I expected. The attrition the next few months before New Years will be severe, then 2022 will be substantially worse.

Tough for SkyWest to hire pilots who have CJO’s to spirit and frontier, or how about the new hire FO’s who leave after 6 months on property. It’s a smart play for LCC’s, they’ll chop off the regional models feet, while the legacy’s chop off the head.

I still believe killing the regional model is bad news for guys like me at UA, as we’ll have a tough time competing. I’m not cheering the demise of OO, but dang things could get interesting. If SkyWest management thinks they’re just going to hire more new pilots to cover the attrition then I’ve been giving them to much credit over the years.

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Old 10-29-2021, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill
Spirit just lowered its hiring minimums (1,500 total time), it’s starting earlier than I expected. The attrition the next few months before New Years will be severe, then 2022 will be substantially worse.

Tough for SkyWest to hire pilots who have CJO’s to spirit and frontier, or how about the new hire FO’s who leave after 6 months on property. It’s a smart play for LCC’s, they’ll chop off the regional models feet, while the legacy’s chop off the head.

I still believe killing the regional model is bad news for guys like me at UA, as we’ll have a tough time competing. I’m not cheering the demise of OO, but dang things could get interesting. If SkyWest management thinks they’re just going to hire more new pilots to cover the attrition then I’ve been giving them to much credit over the years.

wait, what? So spirit is potentially going to hire 1500 hour pilots with no jet time? So one can just jump the regional wagon altogether? Interesting!
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Old 10-29-2021, 01:48 PM
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wait, what? So spirit is potentially going to hire 1500 hour pilots with no jet time? So one can just jump the regional wagon altogether? Interesting!
getting hired is one thing. Training at Spirit is not all that forgiving from what I hear. OO training is stellar for CFIs. I’d highly recommend to do a 6 month detour to OO before attempting spirit
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Old 10-29-2021, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DreamCatcher
wait, what? So spirit is potentially going to hire 1500 hour pilots with no jet time? So one can just jump the regional wagon altogether? Interesting!
One could have 1500 hours and 1250 of that be in a jet. I know Key Lime was hiring into the right seat of their Dornier at 250 hours for a while.
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Old 10-29-2021, 05:13 PM
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wait, what? So spirit is potentially going to hire 1500 hour pilots with no jet time? So one can just jump the regional wagon altogether? Interesting!
1500 TT minimums WITH a current unrestricted ATP
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Old 10-29-2021, 05:59 PM
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1500 TT minimums WITH a current unrestricted ATP
That’s even worse for OO. What will start happening is new hires leaving shortly after passing initial IOE. That’s a lot of wasted money and training resources on a newly acquired Spirit pilot (I’m sure Frontier will follow). Then on top of that you have CA’s and LCA’s being picked off from, well everyone. They better get something figured before they get caught with their pants down.
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