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08-11-2021, 02:17 PM

#2541

herewego

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Originally Posted by Ratm0820

Riddle me why we don’t deserve work rules, soft pay, etc. that our competitors offer their pilots? Or at the very least should come to the bargaining table with those improvements in mind? .

Because you don't get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate. Trying to find where someone (anyone) said we don't deserve what others have, but that we have negotiated different than they have. Have you been at the bargaining table and can verify we didn't have some of those improvements in mind, only to be responded to with "NO! Next item"
Come to think of it, the 1:4 TAFB soft pay was an item negotiated in 2015, as was the increase in MDG from 4:00 to 4:12. Did it make our trips more efficient? can't say yes, and I can't say no, but it did give our reserves 1 additional day of, but at the cost of 24 minutes less pay per month

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Originally Posted by Ratm0820

You like to laugh at the thought of not having ready reserve but guess what republic doesn’t have it and they manage.

Show me where anyone other than management laughs at the thought of not having ready reserve? It's a hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. We failed miserably at the rewrite of the ready rules and the only one laughing is chip as he's on the way to the bank with another deposit due to the massive bonus he's gonna get because of that screw job. Where's Macias when we need him

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Originally Posted by Ratm0820

As far as 150 %, yes that has worked so far for the company, but as attrition picks up creating even worse staffing problems will it work in the future?

When it stops working we may be able to get better. Yes I've seen 200% in my time here, but it was rare. There are two ways to get the elusive 200%, one is by burning negotiating capital in late 2022, or even into 2023 as the next negotiations (Thank you sir, may I have another?) smackdown happens, or so much 150% doesn't get picked up and our reliability numbers crash that Anita does it on her own without our input. Don't hold your breath for either case.

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Originally Posted by Ratm0820

Lastly the base discriminatory travel benefits are a joke.

Yes, but that wasn't even on your list of grievances.

NOW you respond to me why so many trips are not even making it to the 150% tier if as you say no-one has any free time to pick up trips for less than 200%

08-11-2021, 02:36 PM

#2542

Hedley

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Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill

Just out of curiosity have you actually worked for a regional with a union shop? Do regionals need somebody to protect their flying via scope? The majority of “gains” made at any regional have been more related to supply and demand, most gains in QOL and pay in the recent years have been due a lack of surplus of pilots.

We didn’t need a Union to “fight for us” for higher pay. The lack of applicants led to management raising the pay rate after we had already signed a new contract.

Never worked for a regional, but don’t underestimate the impact that collective bargaining has had on improvements at the regional level. Yes market forces played a big role, but SkyWest had to up their game to compete for pilots because union shops paved the way by demanding those wages and work rules. SkyWest is a big and well run company. I’d love to see you guys organize and flex the muscle that a pilot group your size has and gain significant improvements for your group, and for others to build on.

08-11-2021, 05:02 PM

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Claxstarr

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Originally Posted by Happyflyer

I’ve never heard of a 900 with 65 seats. I’d guess PHX AA flying with 76 seats bumping Mesa out.

I believe OO has a few 900s configured with 65 seats for AA 700 spares right now.

08-11-2021, 11:07 PM

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Ratm0820

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Originally Posted by herewego

You have now lost any credibility that you may have tried to fake.
the use of the term Scab is reserved for people who cross a picket and you are throwing it out there as an insult to all Skywesr pilots. Yes there are those who accuse us of being scabs just by the fact we are not unionized, but by you just throwing that term out there because you've been called out for your lack of knowledge about our PPM shows you've lost the discussion. If you indeed have such a low opinion of your own company pilots I suggest you resign and go to Republic ASAP.

yeah such a low opinion that I want our pilots to have industry leading pay and work rules. How awful of me.