MtnFlying

Quick question reference IOE because my search skills are totally off.

Do they try and complete your IOE in your assigned base or are you open to system wide flights based on training CA availability? Is it generally ~25 hours give or take depending on performance of the individual? Just for planning purposes, when do you generally find out where you're assigned?

Thanks!

Turbosina

Generally for IOE they'll try to have you complete it in your assigned base. If you're on the CRJ and need OOE (line experience on the -700 and/or -900) you can request a different base and if they can accommodate it, they will (but they won't deadhead you to the different base).

My IOE was two four-day trips, I can't remember the total number of block hours but 25 sounds about right. There's a minimum number of hours I believe you have to do. In the past there have been stories of people not getting signed off and needing another 25 hours of IOE... The record, or so I've heard, was north of 100 hours (supposedly, although I doubt they'll let that happen again).

As for advance notice...I think they are supposed to give you at least 24 hours. I had at least a few days notice.

Then again, I went through IOE in 2014 so all this has probably changed by now...

MtnFlying

Thanks for the info. I have my class date on the CRJ scheduled for later this year. Can't get sooner due to my retirement date from the military. Anyway, do you know when you get assigned your crew base? Is it during indoc or later in the training cycle. We are selling the house and plan to move into base for QOL as long as it's not California. Been there, done that, don't need to go there again...lol.

KirillTheThrill

It’s usually 2, 4 day trips. If you’re not signed off for the line check they have you fly another trip. 100 hours of block is a lot of 3-4 day trips, I don’t believe anyone would ever make it that far.

Utah

I think they typically schedule you for 35-40 hours of flying for IOE. Max hours use to be 50, but they did away with that a while ago.

If they ask you if you want to do it in another domicile make sure that they deadhead you to and from your own. Don't make your own way.

Utah

A few years back there where a number that made it well past 100 hours. They'll usually pull you back into sim before that point.

R0GER BALL

You will get a chance to request a location to do IOE/OOE. I did one OOE trip outta that requested location. Everything else was everywhere else. It’s airframe and line check airmen availability driven. You might do IOE in the 700 outta PHX. Two four-day trips 15-20 hours each. If you go over 50 hours IOE you get a review board. Which, under no certain terms, do you want.

After IOE (which is really a successful line check) you could get marked up for reserve in your base on that one specific variant you did IOE in…. Or roll right into Other Operating Experience (OOE) on the other two variants. Continuing with my example you might get OOE in the 200 outta FAT and 900 outta DTW. Likely 10ish hrs per.

Everyone this spring was different. I got all variants knocked out in one swing. Others got two variants completed and then got reserve.

No idea ERJ. I’m sure it’s simpler. Like everything is. Just kidding! Sort of.

Edit to add: Base assignments are the first of the month after successful GV.

Wtaps

Just out of curiosity, is it going to be 1 or 2 line check out of training?

R0GER BALL

IOE ends with successful completion of a line check which is usually on the last day of your second trip. Need two legs. PM & PF. Couple other sign offs I can’t speak too.

Things do happen that prevent that last day line check. Weather for instance. Now you’re into the next trip, the next variant, and trying to complete the line check while learning it. With the clock still ticking towards 50 hours.

good luck.

stang

Is there a list to see which bases fly for which contracts / equipment? For Example which bases fly the E175 for AA. I'm just curious to see the break down