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05-09-2019, 12:49 PM
#191
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Position: 737 FO
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Imagine if you're the passenger trying to get to a wedding, or rushing to say goodbye to a dying family member, or whatever important reason they're travelling. Then you find out your flight is delayed two hours because the pilot called in unable to get to work because they choose to live in BFE and commute by air instead of a drivable distance. We have lots of reasons flights go out delayed, crew member not in position to begin their trip is the least justifiable.
I assure you fewer people call in because their car broke down compared to the folks who gave themselves one flight in the morning and didn't make it on. Right now the "defined" policy is try to make it in, and if you can't then let them know but try not to make a habit out of it before you re-evaluate your life choices. I live in domicile, I don't get repeated no-shows without getting a call from my chief, so why should anyone else?
I assure you fewer people call in because their car broke down compared to the folks who gave themselves one flight in the morning and didn't make it on. Right now the "defined" policy is try to make it in, and if you can't then let them know but try not to make a habit out of it before you re-evaluate your life choices. I live in domicile, I don't get repeated no-shows without getting a call from my chief, so why should anyone else?
05-09-2019, 12:51 PM
#192
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Position: 737 FO
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I also understand that there is more "entitled" abuse of commuting these days. Way too many folks who think they'll try the last possible flight and then bang out if it doesn't work out. I always left myself one backup flight, maybe two on a holiday weekend. Never had an issue, not once.
If your car breaks, just get it towed and save the receipt. Nobody expects you to abandon it on the side of the road and uber to work. And I can change a flat tire in about three minutes flat, if that's a problem for you might want to practice in your driveway. And make sure the spare is inflated, the little ones lose air faster than the normal tires.
Nobody is going to be unreasonable (at OO or most other airlines) if life happens. Just don't be the guy who constantly abuses it, unlike many other jobs the whole operation comes to a screeching halt if you don't show up.
Things are much better for pilots now, 20 years ago at some airlines a probationary pilot would likely get fired for one missed commute or flat tire, so you had to plan to arrive plenty early.
If your car breaks, just get it towed and save the receipt. Nobody expects you to abandon it on the side of the road and uber to work. And I can change a flat tire in about three minutes flat, if that's a problem for you might want to practice in your driveway. And make sure the spare is inflated, the little ones lose air faster than the normal tires.
Nobody is going to be unreasonable (at OO or most other airlines) if life happens. Just don't be the guy who constantly abuses it, unlike many other jobs the whole operation comes to a screeching halt if you don't show up.
Things are much better for pilots now, 20 years ago at some airlines a probationary pilot would likely get fired for one missed commute or flat tire, so you had to plan to arrive plenty early.
05-09-2019, 02:23 PM
#193
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I’m almost positive there’s more to his story than just one missed commute. An airline doesn’t just casually spend in the ballpark of $50,000 on training a pilot just to later fire them for something completely unreasonable.
05-09-2019, 02:24 PM
#194
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Not true. They were sitting reserve in san jose and based in LGA.... when they got called out he would call in sick.. or except the trip for the next day. Then realize he couldn’t make it and call in sick... in the mean time calling every day to ask to sit reserve in SFO...
05-09-2019, 02:29 PM
#195
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Not true. They were sitting reserve in san jose and based in LGA.... when they got called out he would call in sick.. or except the trip for the next day. Then realize he couldn’t make it and call in sick... in the mean time calling every day to ask to sit reserve in SFO...
05-09-2019, 03:22 PM
#197
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Also had one get fired two years ago, sitting long call in PDX based in SEA. got assigned a standup and was having trouble getting on a flight. Called the CP and explained his benefits weren't working and asked if he could help get him out of it, CP said you've had 12 hrs to figure it out... So he called in.
point is SKW doesnt fire one for a "simple missed commute" theres always more to the story.
Also knew a ORD captain sitting reserve from his home in Redmond. Every time they would call him he would call out. Did this several times until he got called in. Surprisingly didnt get fired.
05-09-2019, 03:42 PM
#198
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They don’t fire you for “commuting” issues. They do fire you for lying and not being in place where you are supposed to be... but over the last 20 years. I can think of 5 that “reliability” was one of the issues. But it was always more then that. And we have as of tomorrow morning over 5000 pilots.... getting fired for commuting issues shouldn’t be your first stress issue...
05-09-2019, 03:58 PM
#199
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05-09-2019, 03:59 PM
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