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Old 02-17-2021, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TJBrass
Compass and ExpressJet Pilots already have ATPs and passed part 121 initial training at some point. In the company's eyes, that is a safer investment than a 1200 hour CFI swimming in the pool. Just be patient.
I understand they're not going to do it. They asked what we'd like to hear. That's what I would like. Mesa has been sending monthly updates to the pool. They're not guaranteeing anything either but its nice to hear something. And some guy called me a he. Not a he.
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Claxstarr
That took less than 48 hours to prove you wrong.... again.
April ERJ Transition and Upgrade classes are confirmed.
Looking at the vacancy report, not much CRJ growth (35% <edit> of those in class today). Looks like CRJ growth is ERJ transition borne. Fine. But that growth will be slow.
So the company plans to grow ERJ pilots via the CRJ transition route? Maybe, perhaps, someday, street hiring of mil and 121 pilots. Feels like a cost savings.
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotPanda
I understand they're not going to do it. They asked what we'd like to hear. That's what I would like. Mesa has been sending monthly updates to the pool. They're not guaranteeing anything either but its nice to hear something. And some guy called me a he. Not a he.
I agree with that.
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Meep
My guess is he’s a young kid whose upset he won’t be at a legacy by 25.
I don't want to make my identity too obvious on here. But I am on my second career. And female. And despite all the **** that's happened since I became a pilot, I still prefer aviation to the last career. This assumption is off. I apologize for an idealistic post that made me look naive. I can see that doesn't fly on the forums. Please stop roasting me.
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by R0GER BALL
Looking at the vacancy report, not much CRJ growth (just 20% of those in class today). Looks like CRJ growth is ERJ transition borne. Fine. But that growth will be slow.
So the company plans to grow ERJ pilots via the CRJ transition route? Maybe, perhaps, someday, street hiring of mil and 121 pilots. Feels like a cost savings.

Easier to run all new hires through one program.

Also, in my (and many others) opinions, all new hires really should start on the CRJ to learn how to fly a jet before moving to the ERJ which has a much higher level of automation. CRJ->ERJ pilots produce a much better product. I believe the failure rate from the last few months of normal ERJ new hire classes was less than optimal.

Also, once the new AA -700’s come online in DFW over the next few months, I’d expect to see CRJ upgrade classes... and then eventually the ERJ coming online in Q4 as well for AA.

The next 6 months of training department schedules should be interesting.
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by R0GER BALL
I agree with that.

You guys also need to realize WHY Mesa is sending out updates like that.
They have a much harder time keeping people interested in their company. Their hiring pool is much much smaller than companies like Skywest/Republic/Endeavor/Envoy/etc.. and for good reason.
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Claxstarr
Easier to run all new hires through one program.

Also, in my (and many others) opinions, all new hires really should start on the CRJ to learn how to fly a jet before moving to the ERJ which has a much higher level of automation. CRJ->ERJ pilots produce a much better product. I believe the failure rate from the last few months of normal ERJ new hire classes was less than optimal.

Also, once the new AA -700’s come online in DFW over the next few months, I’d expect to see CRJ upgrade classes... and then eventually the ERJ coming online in Q4 as well for AA.

The next 6 months of training department schedules should be interesting.
Thanks for helping me better understand.
I was wrong to say slow growth. Its growth. Growth is growth. Which is awesome. Hoping it kick-starts a third class.
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:52 AM
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I think some weaker pilots targeted the 175 thinking the fly-o-matic would help them. As far as all new hires going into the CRJ it will make furlough cheaper and easier if they can drain the (likely to be) parked fleet.
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by captive apple
I think some weaker pilots targeted the 175 thinking the fly-o-matic would help them. As far as all new hires going into the CRJ it will make furlough cheaper and easier if they can drain the (likely to be) parked fleet.

Can’t disagree with that.
And when it comes time for those weak 175 only pilots to upgrade, it really exacerbates the problems and it’s almost impossible to hide deficiencies.
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Old 02-17-2021, 10:13 AM
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Or they just didn’t want to work 3 times as hard for less pay, seems like common sense to me.
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