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Old 01-24-2021, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by captive apple
You are not really valuable as a reserve with fewer than three days.
Really how did you come up with that? You sure being the 15th man on reserve makes me more valuable than exchanging to a day with only 3-4 reserves available. Heck there could be 0 reserves available and I wouldn’t be able to exchange days.
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Old 01-24-2021, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by captive apple
You are not really valuable as a reserve with fewer than three days.
Yet we have 5 day reserve blocks, in order for you to get used on day one is astronomical...
The MOA for reserves needs to go away, we are the only ones currently in the company paying for everyone else.
I am tired of not flying, not getting any per diem and having most of the current FOs make more money and have control over their life.
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Old 01-24-2021, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad
Yet we have 5 day reserve blocks, in order for you to get used on day one is astronomical...
The MOA for reserves needs to go away, we are the only ones currently in the company paying for everyone else.
I am tired of not flying, not getting any per diem and having most of the current FOs make more money and have control over their life.
Are you okay?
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Old 01-24-2021, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by captive apple
Are you okay?
Why would i not be ok?
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Old 01-24-2021, 08:24 PM
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You sound exasperated over something that came by your own hand. The voluntary transitions have been on their new fleet for at most a couple of months. When the MOA ends line holders will go back to 86 hour lines putting more people on reserve. Have you contemplated that it might be years of reserve? Are you going to make it?
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Old 01-24-2021, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by captive apple
You sound exasperated over something that came by your own hand. The voluntary transitions have been on their new fleet for at most a couple of months. When the MOA ends line holders will go back to 86 hour lines putting more people on reserve. Have you contemplated that it might be years of reserve? Are you going to make it?
Line holders have been back to 86 since October, Flight attendants are back since October. The only ones who are still taking a "hit" are the reserves. That was the main point i was trying to convey. As a reserve and not being utilized you also miss out on per diem. If you are on the CRJ you also only get paid 200 rate even if you only fly 700 or 900. So there is a lot of money being lost for anyone on reserve right now.

And on the original comment where i tagged you i aimed to say that not only are we not useable under 3 days reserve bucket, we are worthless in the 5 day bucket, since they would have to use every single reserve below you in order for you to get used.
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Old 01-25-2021, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad
Line holders have been back to 86 since October, Flight attendants are back since October. The only ones who are still taking a "hit" are the reserves. That was the main point i was trying to convey. As a reserve and not being utilized you also miss out on per diem. If you are on the CRJ you also only get paid 200 rate even if you only fly 700 or 900. So there is a lot of money being lost for anyone on reserve right now.

And on the original comment where i tagged you i aimed to say that not only are we not useable under 3 days reserve bucket, we are worthless in the 5 day bucket, since they would have to use every single reserve below you in order for you to get used.
Wrong on so many counts
Line holder here who used to average 105 hour credit per month. now averaging 85, with nothing to pick up unless you are willing to sit by the computer all day to watch open time to take an LCO trip. The text alerts are too slow to be able to pick up anything worthwhile since others are watching it too.
A CRJ pilot who gets called out on reserve to fly the 700/900 gets the override pay added to their check even if not breaking guarantee
A five day bucket is mostly wasted, but if a 4 day trip shows up on day one of your bucket they usually don't call out anyone in less than a 4 day bucket, so everyone in those lower buckets don't need to be used before you get called.
I say usually don't call anyone in the shorter buckets because crew scheduling will do that if someone in the 4 day bucket will break guarantee if called out for the whole trip, so they'll break it up to prevent that from happening.
What usually happens in a 5 day bucket is you're OBR to DTW, unless you live in DTW, then you're sent OBR to DEN or SEA to prevent someone there from breaking guarantee.
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Old 01-25-2021, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by herewego
Wrong on so many counts
1. Line holder here who used to average 105 hour credit per month. now averaging 85, with nothing to pick up unless you are willing to sit by the computer all day to watch open time to take an LCO trip. The text alerts are too slow to be able to pick up anything worthwhile since others are watching it too.

2. A CRJ pilot who gets called out on reserve to fly the 700/900 gets the override pay added to their check even if not breaking guarantee

3. A five day bucket is mostly wasted, but if a 4 day trip shows up on day one of your bucket they usually don't call out anyone in less than a 4 day bucket, so everyone in those lower buckets don't need to be used before you get called.
1. I was not talking about working more, all i was saying is that the limitation is gone for line holders. No one can pick up anything, i was a line holder and due to personal preference i bid for reserve and i would do 120+ hours a month, all pre covid. That is not what i am talking about now though.
2. Again, you are not paying attention, when you do not fly you get soft time and that is 200 pay. There is barely any flying for reserves, i think i can go back from May to December and i have done perhaps 200h (probably less) on the 700.
3. They cannot give a 4 day trip to a 3 day bucket, you are not legan for it. And in order for them to give a 4 day trip to a 5 day bucket, they need to exhaust every single 4 day reserve, this per PPM. But lets say a 1 day comes up, they would need to use every single reserve to get to the 5 day bucket.
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Old 01-25-2021, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad
Line holders have been back to 86 since October, Flight attendants are back since October. The only ones who are still taking a "hit" are the reserves. That was the main point i was trying to convey.
This is not true at all. Pilots are up to a max award of 86 hours. The min guarantee is still 72 hours. I promise you most line holders awards are in the 70s and not 80s. As a percent change, line holders have experienced a greater percent decrease in credit hours awarded. Did you know the max PBS award previously was 120 (now 86)? Previously PBS at a minimum would build line holders up to 84-89 hour lines before moving on! You probably remember crediting 90 or 100+ hours a month without picking anything up. If you do the math you will see that the percent change in awarded/assigned credit hours has largely been decreased equitably for both group.

As a reserve and not being utilized you also miss out on per diem.
This is how it has always been and at every airline.

=12ptwe are worthless in the 5 day bucket, since they would have to use every single reserve below you in order for you to get used.
This is not have the reserve system works, but you can figure it out in the manual.

I don’t know what is going on in your life, a lot of people are hurting for different reasons.
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Old 01-25-2021, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by captive apple
This is not true at all. Pilots are up to a max award of 86 hours. The min guarantee is still 72 hours. I promise you most line holders awards are in the 70s and not 80s. As a percent change, line holders have experienced a greater percent decrease in credit hours awarded. Did you know the max PBS award previously was 120 (now 86)? Previously PBS at a minimum would build line holders up to 84-89 hour lines before moving on! You probably remember crediting 90 or 100+ hours a month without picking anything up. If you do the math you will see that the percent change in awarded/assigned credit hours has largely been decreased equitably for both group.


This is how it has always been and at every airline.


This is not have the reserve system works, but you can figure it out in the manual.

I don’t know what is going on in your life, a lot of people are hurting for different reasons.
Let agree to disagree, we obviously seem to see things differently.
However, this is the 3rd time i am telling you that i am fine, there is nothing wrong with me. My life is great.
Now stop making suggestions of otherwise.
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