Hedley

That’s why I don’t see SkyWest in Aviate. Allowing pilots to fly multiple contracts is much more efficient than restricting them to just one. Aviate is just a carrot on a stick to attract new pilots to UAX companies. Neither SkyWest or Republic had recruiting problems, so they really don’t need that carrot.

pangolin

Come Feb this will be true of Mesa pilots. However, prior to that the CRJ pilots could and did fly for both AA and UA.

Crj pilot badges show both carriers.

piloto2

Well, your “spoof” incorrectly paraphrased his statement. He left enough wiggle room in the actual statement where one could gather that 50 seaters would be around, albeit in reduced numbers, depending on how everything plays out. And has been pointed out, Mesa CRJ pilots did not fly specific contracts and that won’t be the case until next month.

threeighteen

Why are MESA pilots just now being locked to a specific mainline carrier? will they be able to be reflowed to the other mainline carrier if the company needs it? Will they only get bennies on the carrier they support now?

captive apple

Ten bucks and the slow realization that you once swam in your dad’s nut says MT resurfaces at American.

Hedley

Statements like “thing of the past under any scenario” don’t leave much wiggle room if you intend to follow through, but statements from airline management should be taken like those from politicians. They will say what people want to hear, and if it actually happens, then all the better. I don’t think that the single class 50 seaters will be completely gone any time soon, but I do think that they will take a major hit. Kirby doesn’t want to free up more 76 seaters with a new NB fleet type, and UAL pilots aren’t going to relax scope. My guess is that either the 145’s or 200’s are parked by 2025 and that there will be a shift back to reduced frequency on larger planes, especially with the new emphasis on our environmental impact and potentially raising fuel prices when demand increases. There may be a few single class 50 seaters serving very small markets, but more flying will shift back to United. Instead of 8 flights a day on a 76 seater, there will be 4-5 on a 320/737, those markets served with high frequency 50 seaters will get fewer 76 seaters..... Our competition is going the same way. Delta is completely eliminating their 50 seaters, and Southwest and the LCC’s don’t use rj’s at all.

Gone Flying

isn’t it due to the fact Mesa is getting rid of UAL CRJs? So they will only have 175s for UA and only CRJs for AA.

acecrackshot

Why would it be? The requirement was laughable in the first instance. The fact that ALPA bought it even more so.

Now, there might be all sorts of (mostly political) reasons to CLAIM a pilot shortage in 2021+ but the “data” will be as spurious then as now.

EjectionSandals

Since the beginning of the pandemic they have expressed the dedication to the program continuing on. They also have made hints that it will be expanding in 2021 which is why I brought up the topic on this forum.

acecrackshot

Right, “expressed dedication.”

However, did any major have trouble filling classes in 2018-2019? I can’t think of one. A few no-shows here or there who were rapidly replaced.

These programs were the carrot to staff the regional, who in turn would accept these programs and the leverage given to both their regional and United. It was short term winning strategy for the pilot under certain circumstances. However there is a cost.