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07-19-2018, 01:09 PM
#91
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SkyWest is using their forgone reputation as the place to be. Today we take everyone, there is no person that will not be in the next class if they have the minimums. So forget the premise that SkyWest has this higher caliber for what newhire gets on board. From what I have been told, we took on someone that couldn't make at Mesa. People are getting suspended and terminated for stuff that would normally be fixed. I think management is getting nervous and mean about the possible union drive. Now is not the time to be here.
07-19-2018, 03:17 PM
#92
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07-19-2018, 03:43 PM
#93
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They are hiring virtually anybody, so some of those will have training problems, and others will have behavior problems once on line. I admittedly flew with some folks who didn't belong there.
Also their scheduling practices are creating reliability problems, so they probably believe that for every pilot they fire for poor reliability (ie working less than 98 hours/month), they can intimidate several hundred other pilots to not call out. Do they keep the airline running today or worry about a union years down the road?
07-19-2018, 04:33 PM
#94
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Not a situation unique to Skywest. No regional today is getting the quantity of really good applicants they once did. You are seeing that across the board. But when you combine that with industry lagging pay, you tend to make the difficult situation even worse.
So of course you are going to have to increase eliminations. Every regional out there is one Colgan 3407 incident away from becoming extinct:
https://youtu.be/33NUAy3eomg
Flying with inadequate people is far more dangerous to the continued survival of a regional than just cancelling flights.
07-19-2018, 05:58 PM
#95
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SkyWest let me go last year because of a few sick calls and one missed commute while on probation. Not saying I didn’t deserve some sort of punishment but them telling me bye bye seemed rather stupid. I held many jobs previous to that, never been close to getting fired. I had zero issues getting through training and always made my commute prior to the day of my first offense. Not once did I meet any of my base chiefs for anything prior to being called into the office and told to hand over my badge and surface.
Point is I don’t think everyone who gets let go deserves to be let go so don’t paint with too broad of brush, but I could be biased.
Point is I don’t think everyone who gets let go deserves to be let go so don’t paint with too broad of brush, but I could be biased.
07-19-2018, 07:57 PM
#97
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SkyWest let me go last year because of a few sick calls and one missed commute while on probation. Not saying I didn’t deserve some sort of punishment but them telling me bye bye seemed rather stupid. I held many jobs previous to that, never been close to getting fired. I had zero issues getting through training and always made my commute prior to the day of my first offense. Not once did I meet any of my base chiefs for anything prior to being called into the office and told to hand over my badge and surface.
Point is I don’t think everyone who gets let go deserves to be let go so don’t paint with too broad of brush, but I could be biased.
Point is I don’t think everyone who gets let go deserves to be let go so don’t paint with too broad of brush, but I could be biased.
Normally progressive discipline is the rule (ie discussions, verbal warnings, written warnings, etc) but airlines in general are notorious for low tolerance on probation.
Entirely possible they just decided to make some examples and you were at the wrong time and place. In the past, especially recently as QOL tanked, many folks were calling in a LOT, like monthly.
07-19-2018, 08:09 PM
#98
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Not sure what a "few" means, but 2-3 is way different than 5-6, especially in a period than one year.
Normally progressive discipline is the rule (ie discussions, verbal warnings, written warnings, etc) but airlines in general are notorious for low tolerance on probation.
Entirely possible they just decided to make some examples and you were at the wrong time and place. In the past, especially recently as QOL tanked, many folks were calling in a LOT, like monthly.
Normally progressive discipline is the rule (ie discussions, verbal warnings, written warnings, etc) but airlines in general are notorious for low tolerance on probation.
Entirely possible they just decided to make some examples and you were at the wrong time and place. In the past, especially recently as QOL tanked, many folks were calling in a LOT, like monthly.
Anyway enough my sob story it’s been shared before. It’s just another example of how the biggest best company really doesn’t care about the guys/gals in the front of their planes. You can defend the company all you want, but if they thought more of you they would offer you way better deals than the last two and not require new hires to share rooms, excuse me share “suites”..
Last edited by Fixnem2Flyinem; 07-19-2018 at 08:27 PM.
07-20-2018, 06:03 AM
#100
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Yeah! I can't believe someone would be so foolish as to find something that paid more money and allowed them to build wealth instead of subsidizing their need to fly shiny jets. How foolish of them since we know everybody got to a major that was hired in those days.
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