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Old 05-10-2018, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
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You’ve all succeeded in making Xjet flying sound so horrible that you’ve assured your own shut down due to staffing.
It wasn’t their making flying sound horrible at Xjet. It was 9 year upgrades that have gradually been reduced to 6 years. No wonder Xjet is losing 50 pilots per month. Envoy is waiting with open arms to have Xjet pilots fly their E145’s out of LGA in the immediate upgrade to the left seat, a $45k signing bonus, and a flow to American.
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The Skywest pilots made the decision to be the only airline without a union. At least own it.

That stigma will stick with Skywest pilots.
Awwwww I’m sorry your feelings are hurt snowflake. Maybe we can get you a safe space with some coloring books. Maybe that will help your delicate feelings.

There is no stigma. Move along princess
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
It wasn’t their making flying sound horrible at Xjet. It was 9 year upgrades that have gradually been reduced to 6 years. No wonder Xjet is losing 50 pilots per month. Envoy is waiting with open arms to have Xjet pilots fly their E145’s out of LGA in the immediate upgrade to the left seat, a $45k signing bonus, and a flow to American.
XJT only loosing 50 a month!!?? I would have thought more... OO has been way over that a month..
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Old 05-10-2018, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
XJT only loosing 50 a month!!?? I would have thought more... OO has been way over that a month..
Look at it from a percentage perspective....
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XJT only loosing 50 a month!!?? I would have thought more... OO has been way over that a month..
OO also has 4600 pilots. Not as significant of a percentage.
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Originally Posted by hawk21
OO also has 4600 pilots. Not as significant of a percentage.
At this rate, OO’s complete turnover of pilots is about every 10 years. Xjet’s complete turnover is around 18 months. And, that is why you see OO picking up AA flying now. Xjet won’t be around too much longer at this turnover rate.

There will be some pilots that stick it out to the end to take advantage of the preferential hiring required by all ALPA carriers by their contract.
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Old 05-10-2018, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
At this rate, OO’s complete turnover of pilots is about every 10 years. Xjet’s complete turnover is around 18 months. And, that is why you see OO picking up AA flying now. Xjet won’t be around too much longer at this turnover rate.

There will be some pilots that stick it out to the end to take advantage of the preferential hiring required by all ALPA carriers by their contract.
How did you get 18 months?
4 years at 50/month and 2500 pilots.
OO with 4600 pilots currently turning over 80/month is about 5 years.
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
How did you get 18 months?
4 years at 50/month and 2500 pilots.
OO with 4600 pilots currently turning over 80/month is about 5 years.
How long do you believe it has been since the forum’s pilot statistics and Xjet website have been updated? A long time. Same statistics from at least two years ago. Xjet still show Delta Connection on both the website and the forum. While I may be exaggerating Xjet’s demise at 18 months, they are far from having robust new hire classes. If OO is losing sustained 80 net pilots a month over the past year, they should be at 3,000 pilots about now.

I believe the shedding of Delta and American flying is so United can buy the remnants of Xjet per the Bloomberg article from a few months ago. I think positive news is coming their way.

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Originally Posted by calmwinds
How long do you believe it has been since the forum’s pilot statistics and Xjet website have been updated? A long time. Same statistics from at least two years ago. Xjet still show Delta Connection on both the website and the forum. While I may be exaggerating Xjet’s demise at 18 months, they are far from having robust new hire classes. If OO is losing sustained 80 net pilots a month over the past year, they should be at 3,000 pilots about now.

I believe the shedding of Delta and American flying is so United can buy the remnants of Xjet per the Bloomberg article from a few months ago. I think positive news is coming their way.
Hope so. trans states is going all UA and all E145 already. Could be a good merger to get sizable scale efficiency.... I still feel UA has to many “hang up’S” to own a regional right now.
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Hope so. trans states is going all UA and all E145 already. Could be a good merger to get sizable scale efficiency.... I still feel UA has to many “hang up’S” to own a regional right now.
Continental didn’t divest Xjet because they wanted to. They needed the cash. I suspect given the lack of quality United perceives from some of their current regional partners, United (and its former Continental management) is in the market.

I look forward to SKW entering the DFW market and bringing a decent independent regional there.
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