Denied jumpseat by SkyWest with open seats!
12-24-2017, 09:13 AM
#61
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When I flew the 200 at YV, we had 2 zones and rarely did we leave anyone behind, including js. Came to OO and I saw it more regularly. Not sure if going from 4-6 zones will help, but I hope it does.
Only a handful of occasions did I fly with a captain who did not make any effort to take a js. Even after I'd find a solution within the bounds of legality. They would simply turn to me and say "yeah it's not gonna happen today ". But it was always lifers who, I suspect, were showing mainline dudes who was the boss. But again this probably happens single digit occasions over 7 years in the right seat.
Only a handful of occasions did I fly with a captain who did not make any effort to take a js. Even after I'd find a solution within the bounds of legality. They would simply turn to me and say "yeah it's not gonna happen today ". But it was always lifers who, I suspect, were showing mainline dudes who was the boss. But again this probably happens single digit occasions over 7 years in the right seat.
12-24-2017, 10:00 AM
#62
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When I flew the 200 at YV, we had 2 zones and rarely did we leave anyone behind, including js. Came to OO and I saw it more regularly. Not sure if going from 4-6 zones will help, but I hope it does.
Only a handful of occasions did I fly with a captain who did not make any effort to take a js. Even after I'd find a solution within the bounds of legality. They would simply turn to me and say "yeah it's not gonna happen today ". But it was always lifers who, I suspect, were showing mainline dudes who was the boss. But again this probably happens single digit occasions over 7 years in the right seat.
Only a handful of occasions did I fly with a captain who did not make any effort to take a js. Even after I'd find a solution within the bounds of legality. They would simply turn to me and say "yeah it's not gonna happen today ". But it was always lifers who, I suspect, were showing mainline dudes who was the boss. But again this probably happens single digit occasions over 7 years in the right seat.
12-26-2017, 11:45 AM
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12-29-2017, 10:37 PM
#66
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I've had the misfortune of being left behind at least a dozen and a half times in the last couple of years, had zero denials in the preceding decade before Skywest took over the routes. Most of these specific airframes* I have lots of time in. (I realize W&B config can change with Carrier.)
I've witnessed four of these "right-on-the-line" manual W&B in the past year where I was denied. Maybe new Captains are coached to use their judgement whether the CG is touching the outside or inside of the line. I don't know, just my experience.
No, I didn't contact JS Coordinator, IMO the Captain did things how they saw fit by the book. I will always show Skywest jumpseaters the same level of safety and I appreciate their professionalism.
*years of flying these exact airframes I can count on maybe half a hand the times I had to leave a JS behind.
I've witnessed four of these "right-on-the-line" manual W&B in the past year where I was denied. Maybe new Captains are coached to use their judgement whether the CG is touching the outside or inside of the line. I don't know, just my experience.
No, I didn't contact JS Coordinator, IMO the Captain did things how they saw fit by the book. I will always show Skywest jumpseaters the same level of safety and I appreciate their professionalism.
*years of flying these exact airframes I can count on maybe half a hand the times I had to leave a JS behind.
Last edited by unit monster; 12-29-2017 at 10:54 PM.
01-02-2018, 11:04 PM
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