Originally Posted by Check Complete

You are either a CP or just management, because only a SAPA rep would accompany a regular pilot for a review. Regardless, your posting on this is a display of “bad ass” that you are totally out of touch with. The 200 is so frequently unable to have a JS, especially this time of year, that it is very plausible..

You are just like the rest of management that never flies and has no idea of the rank and file efforts! When did the VP of OPS fly last?

Originally Posted by Utah

You don't know what the hell you are talking about. I've had several flights where we can't even take all of the revenue passengers.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

The first year they tried RCC, I took three out of 50 once. We had to remove 47 pax. Part of the problem was the airport ops didn't know how to report RWY conditions so as to align with the new rules.

Originally Posted by WesternSkies

I'd be all ears to hear about your experience of having to leave ticketed passengers but still getting a jumpseater on.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

No you cannot always make it work with a fully loaded Deuce. Usually, but not always.

Alternate fuel or anti-ice are the usual culprits.

Originally Posted by SMACFUM

I call BS on this post. Only 1 post history. But I'll bite and engage in some discussion.

I HIGHLY doubt the reason you were denied was solely because the CA didn't want to wait for your bag. That simply doesn't pass the sniff test, there has to be more to the story.

Yeah, generally speaking in this industry giving co-works ultimatums such as "I'm not pushing with/without xxx" won't get you very far with anybody, and will often yield results opposite to those that you desire.

Sometimes the numbers just don't work, especially on the -200. I will do everything within my power to get any and all JS on board. However, I will not compromise safety margins by burning down to MINTO before launching into questionable WX or other marginal conditions just to accommodate YOU. I'll do my best, but again I will only go so far. Sorry, no Sorry

No, it doesn't always take less than 5 min. Again, especially on a nose heavy -200. It's easy to get into a feed-back loop of overweight vs too forward CG that can't be resolved without fudging (falsifying) the numbers.

Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust

So you routinely do an AI On Max Thrust takeoff at Min Fuel w ALTN with 53 SOB plus cargo? If you can fit all the people you can fit 190 more lbs.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

You're clueless. Glad I'm out of there.

And no I'm not fudging fuel to the tune of 800lbs.

Originally Posted by AV888RRR

I was trying to fly on a SkyWest flight that had several open seats, but the Captain denied boarding because they were about to close and didn't want to wait for my bag to be gate checked. They left the gate 20 mins after all this happened. This isn't the first time I've had this happen although the first time I was denied the actual cockpit jumpseat. Yes, the CA has absolute discretion as to who gets to occupy the jumpseat, but this lack of respect for a fellow pilot trying to get home is unacceptable.

I've always made sure we've got everyone onboard that we could possibly take on my flights even if it means occupying all available jumpseats for eligible non-revs. Even when I was weight restricted, I've always coordinated with Dispatch to get different fuel numbers to accommodate the jumpseater saying I'm not pushing without him/her onboard. Come on guys, it's really not that hard. I've never left a jumpseater behind, cockpit or cabin jumpseat. Taking a jumpseater to me, and to a lot of pilots, is more important than departing on time or tankering fuel. You can still arrive on time/early. It takes less than 5 mins to accommodate.

Don't leave anyone behind.