Denied jumpseat by SkyWest with open seats!
12-18-2017, 01:26 PM
#12
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I, and every captain I know, will do absolutely everything possible to get a jumpseater on board, even on a full -200 with alternate fuel and a short hop. We once opened the door and took a 15 minute delay so that we could move bags out of the overhead and into the aft cargo, which can be the only way to get the CG aft enough to allow a jumpseater up front. Taxiing out dual-engine with the APU running, requesting a delay before takeoff to burn down to MTOW... We've really done it all. That said, there are sometimes fuel and weight situations that make it literally impossible to legally take a J/S, no matter how much you fudge the takeoff fuel in the FMS.
I'm sure there are captains out there who won't bend over backwards to get everyone on board, but in 40 months here I haven't met one...
I'm sure there are captains out there who won't bend over backwards to get everyone on board, but in 40 months here I haven't met one...
12-18-2017, 06:19 PM
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Eh, I work here and one of our guys left me due to weight. I wouldn't dare tell him how to make it work, I bit my lip and exited the cockpit.
I was recently left by Endeavor due to the gate agent being unable to figure out how to list me.
Though tip of the hat to the Envoy captain that once told the gate agent, "we go when you figure out your computer".
I've done a lot of ridiculous stuff to legally get the J/S on, but there have also been times where it just wasn't happening and they were left. Curse of the Deuce.
The OP should have the two J/S committees talk. There is no harm in talking if everything is on the Up'n'up. If we have a problem CA, that CA should be a "known".
I was recently left by Endeavor due to the gate agent being unable to figure out how to list me.
Though tip of the hat to the Envoy captain that once told the gate agent, "we go when you figure out your computer".
I've done a lot of ridiculous stuff to legally get the J/S on, but there have also been times where it just wasn't happening and they were left. Curse of the Deuce.
The OP should have the two J/S committees talk. There is no harm in talking if everything is on the Up'n'up. If we have a problem CA, that CA should be a "known".
12-18-2017, 06:54 PM
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Yeah, odd first post man.
Nonetheless, as former SkyW guy I worked my butt off to accommodate JS'ers and only had to leave maybe 2-3 behind in over a decade that I just couldn't get the numbers to work for. The Deuce is certainly a challenge at times to make it work, it was easier pre-ACARS too.
Nonetheless, as former SkyW guy I worked my butt off to accommodate JS'ers and only had to leave maybe 2-3 behind in over a decade that I just couldn't get the numbers to work for. The Deuce is certainly a challenge at times to make it work, it was easier pre-ACARS too.
12-18-2017, 06:58 PM
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Yeah, odd first post man.
Nonetheless, as former SkyW guy I worked my butt off to accommodate JS'ers and only had to leave maybe 2-3 behind in over a decade that I just couldn't get the numbers to work for. The Deuce is certainly a challenge at times to make it work, it was easier pre-ACARS too.
Nonetheless, as former SkyW guy I worked my butt off to accommodate JS'ers and only had to leave maybe 2-3 behind in over a decade that I just couldn't get the numbers to work for. The Deuce is certainly a challenge at times to make it work, it was easier pre-ACARS too.
12-19-2017, 05:49 AM
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I was going to ask that. I see this all the time when I commute on your CR2's. I've never in my life had to put that amount of ballast on a 200 to get a J/S on. What makes the OO 200's so much more nose heavy than other airlines?
12-19-2017, 05:57 AM
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Did they put all the hyd 3 accumulators back?
12-19-2017, 07:14 AM
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