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Old 12-11-2017, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonneaux
A threat? In what way? St. George spent several years trying to get XJT's costs inline. ALPA wouldn't budge. ASA was profitable before XJT. Biggest mistake OO ever made was buying them. They lost money before OO bought them and they still lose money. About three years ago St. George gave up on them and started winding them down. It didn't need to happen that way, but that's the way the Union wanted it. Highest paid to the last day. Soon they too will be gone.

Great contract there.
Very true. But I wouldn't high five just yet.

Things are brewing under the surface at SKYW too. It is still the employer of choice if you are looking for West Coast bases. But growth has been in the East.

Compensation and QoL are seriously lacking if competing against 9E.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the XJT attrition catches SGU flat footed. I don't think they expected those levels. And I doubt SKYW would have the ability to catch the ball. I just hope that the UA contract has an out.
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Old 12-11-2017, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonneaux
You and your glorious Union and contract. With that contract your company/pilot ranks have been decimated. Expressjet has imploded so fast it should make your head spin. Highest paid to the last day. ' Yay, look at me and my great CONTRACT, I'm on my way to being unemployed in a year, but in the meantime isn't this great. Hopefully, United will bail us out to protect their feed, otherwise next year I'll be on unemployment and wiping my a$$ with that awesome contract.'

At least you'll get to be a martyr like Comair.
Wow. So much pent up anger. I doubt many people at XJT give a rats behind about our future anymore. We all seem to be jumping off the stInc wagon, and on to better places, just fine. Don't worry about us, we'll make sure to turn off the lights behind us so SGU can afford your 1% raise.
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Old 12-11-2017, 09:43 AM
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The main reason INC has been shrinking XJT is because of UNPROFITABLE CPA’s. That’s it. The pilots aren’t paid THAT much more in overall compensation with benefits and soft time. Each plane that XJT flew lost money. Unfortunately the pilots aren’t to blame but whoever signed these zero profit CPAs. So skywest started doing smart business and shutting it down. It’s only until the past year or so UAL finally realized holy crap, our feed is imploding. This info is straight from an XJT management source.
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Old 12-11-2017, 10:11 AM
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The fact that all the ERJ145's were owned by UAL gave SKYW nowhere to turn for savings except labor and performance metrics. Labor could have taken a 50% reduction and Expressjet would still have lost money, that's how bad the contracts where. Blaming labor for the problem is really misguided. I think it was a really bad gamble they lost pursing Express jet thinking they could just renegotiate the CPA.
This is the reason SKYW has always strongly favored owning or leasing the aircraft they operate under contract.
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