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Old 12-07-2017, 03:17 PM
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At skyw I don’t feel the need to create new APC accounts to troll the xjet thread.
I’m not sure how to value that as compensation.

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Old 12-08-2017, 04:48 AM
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At skyw I don’t feel the need to create new APC accounts to troll the xjet thread.
I’m not sure how to value that as compensation.

Don’t forget to login to your normal account.
Not sure if strawman or just trying to provoke.

Is there something inaccurate to what he said? Does it really matter if that's his primary account or not?
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyw
Expressjet announced an additional $10,000 retention bonus for every CA and FO at ExpressJet for 2018. If you add the 401k plan B match, XJT captains are making $15,000 to $20,000 more per year than a SkyWest captain. Maybe unions are not so bad?
Not the union, it's Inc. They want to keep it manned while they do an orderly shutdown.

$20k would keep me from taking a legacy job. Not.
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Old 12-08-2017, 04:40 PM
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Not the union, it's Inc. They want to keep it manned while they do an orderly shutdown.

$20k would keep me from taking a legacy job. Not.
Well, looks like United wants to buy Expressjet! News came out today. Looks like legacy jobs for all Expressjet pilots. Finally some good news for Expressjet pilots...well deserved!
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That’s a big MAYBE right now.
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Old 12-09-2017, 06:57 AM
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That’s a big MAYBE right now.
United has no choice but to buy ExpressJet. They have to stop the massive attrition and make a big deal. Skywest pilots should have merged with Express pilots...too late now. Good luck recruiting pilots!
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Old 12-09-2017, 07:39 AM
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United has no choice but to buy ExpressJet. They have to stop the massive attrition and make a big deal. Skywest pilots should have merged with Express pilots...too late now. Good luck recruiting pilots!

If that had happened, then UA would not be buying into XJT.

In the old days, if you were too expensive you got the COMAIR treatment.

Today, they need pilots. If you're cheap, you get to stay at a regional. If you're too costly for RJ's, you might well get flowed to mainline.

I suspected this was coming several years ago, and advised friends to get out of SKW before "stoploss" kicked in.
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Old 12-10-2017, 07:03 PM
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Here are the xjt perks (all of it negotiated by ALPA):

401k Matching
1-4 yrs service 100% up to 4%
5-9 yrs service 100% up to 5%
10+ yrs service 100% up to 6%

Defined Contribution Plan
1-4 years 2.5%
5-9 years 4%
10-14 years 5%
15-19 years 5.5%
20+ years 6%

When combining both the match and DC Plan, total company contribution (doesn't include pilot contribution):
1-5 years 6.5%
5-9 years 9%
10-14 years 11%
15-19 years 11.5%
20+ years 12%

Vacation Accrual Rate
• Year 1: 7 days
• Year 2-6: 14 days
• Year 7-10: 21 days
• Year 11+: 28 days
Pay is 3.75 hours per day

Sick Time Accrual Rate
5 hours per month starting from the month of ground school


Health insurance premiums:
Company pays 75%
Employee pays 25%

Long Term Disability:
Monthly benefit of 55% of hourly rate times 1,026 divided by 12, paid until age 65. Company pays 65% of premiums.

On the Job Injury bank of 400 hours:
Hours in your bank are used to make up the difference between Worker's Comp insurance and minimum monthly guarantee.

Sick note policy:
Unlimited sick calls with note from doctor

Commuter policy:
Can use three times in rolling 12 months if you give yourself one flight;
Can use unlimited if you give yourself two flights

Fatigue policy
Operational - pay protected
Pilot induced - sick bank
Not paid if you don't fill out fatigue report

Profit sharing:
6% of the net profit; and
50% of every dollar earned above $30 million annual pre-tax income

Bonuses:
2016 $1000
2017 $1500 + ($1500 for captains and $8500 for FOs)
2018 $10k for captains and FOs. Additional $10k for ASA pilots.
$10k for new hires
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
Here are the xjt perks (all of it negotiated by ALPA):

401k Matching
1-4 yrs service 100% up to 4%
5-9 yrs service 100% up to 5%
10+ yrs service 100% up to 6%

Defined Contribution Plan
1-4 years 2.5%
5-9 years 4%
10-14 years 5%
15-19 years 5.5%
20+ years 6%

When combining both the match and DC Plan, total company contribution (doesn't include pilot contribution):
1-5 years 6.5%
5-9 years 9%
10-14 years 11%
15-19 years 11.5%
20+ years 12%

Vacation Accrual Rate
• Year 1: 7 days
• Year 2-6: 14 days
• Year 7-10: 21 days
• Year 11+: 28 days
Pay is 3.75 hours per day

Sick Time Accrual Rate
5 hours per month starting from the month of ground school


Health insurance premiums:
Company pays 75%
Employee pays 25%

Long Term Disability:
Monthly benefit of 55% of hourly rate times 1,026 divided by 12, paid until age 65. Company pays 65% of premiums.

On the Job Injury bank of 400 hours:
Hours in your bank are used to make up the difference between Worker's Comp insurance and minimum monthly guarantee.

Sick note policy:
Unlimited sick calls with note from doctor

Commuter policy:
Can use three times in rolling 12 months if you give yourself one flight;
Can use unlimited if you give yourself two flights

Fatigue policy
Operational - pay protected
Pilot induced - sick bank
Not paid if you don't fill out fatigue report

Profit sharing:
6% of the net profit; and
50% of every dollar earned above $30 million annual pre-tax income

Bonuses:
2016 $1000
2017 $1500 + ($1500 for captains and $8500 for FOs)
2018 $10k for captains and FOs. Additional $10k for ASA pilots.
$10k for new hires
And when was all of that negotiated?
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Old 12-10-2017, 07:18 PM
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And when was all of that negotiated?
That’s their current book that the ERJ side has been operating from for years. The only thing that’s recent in there is the bonuses.
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