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Old 11-04-2017, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingagain
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They're getting kids with nothing but light piston time through training and you think a career USAF pilot wouldn't get through training?
Correct. He'd wash out. A teenager can fly a modern jet if given enough training and a desire. But if it's a hobby...stay the F away. I wouldn't want someone flying an aircraft with people on it who thinks it's a hobby.

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Old 11-05-2017, 12:12 AM
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Correct. He'd wash out. A teenager can fly a modern jet if given enough training and a desire. But if it's a hobby...stay the F away. I wouldn't want someone flying an aircraft with people on it who thinks it's a hobby.

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Thumbs up, don't bring that attitude - you'll burn/wash out quick.
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ImPilot I Fly
It’s all about attitude. First guy out in our class was a retired F-15 pilot. I’m an avid gamer and have been on both sides of a “rage quit” but I’ve never seen it in the work place. Very interesting. All the flight instructors excelled.
The military does have a cultural tendency to build people's confidence in their own abilities relative to civilians. Some of it is justified (you actually DO accomplish more before breakfast than civilians do all day), but it's easy to develop the attitude that everything in civ-land is easy. It's not. It is easiER, but you still have to apply SOME of the worth ethic you developed in the military. 80% should do it in every case, maybe less.

Any mil aviator will excel in any 121 training program if they work almost as hard as they did in the mil and check the attitude at the door, if applicable. Lot's of great dudes don't have attitudes at all, most of the very senior AC guys I work with in fact... that's how they got very senior.

A senior fighter pilot probably developed a "customer" mentality toward training and checking... if he was a wing or squadron boss, his recurrent would be gentlemen-style. Still he should know better. Although if he never flow anything but his fighter after training he may not realize that it's always hard to learn to a new airplane.
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Old 11-05-2017, 07:12 AM
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I don’t think that he would have trouble with training, I think that he would very quickly realize that this job isn’t a hobby. That there is a lot of crap that goes along with it and he would quit within a few months.

So, please don’t waste our time and money.
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Old 11-05-2017, 08:09 AM
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I know of a AF pilot that needed over 100 hours of IOE within the past year or so...
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:40 AM
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I’ve flown with a lot of military guys, and as with any other group some are good, and some are NOT good. One guy in particular needed constant supervision and assistance, despite being here over a year.
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Old 11-07-2017, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by awakenedpilot
Yeah... as an Air Force pilot myself who was out of the seat for 4.5 years I have to say military training prepared me well for the Skywest program because I already knew how to study in an environment like this.

That being said, if you’re not really into this as a career it’ll wear you out because it does require significant work, study and the ability to pay attention in class for 9 hours a day for 3 weeks. It’s not a cake walk for anyone, military or CFI. Just think about if it’s worth the investment if you’re doing this as a hobby. We had someone who was doing this as sort of a midlife crisis and he didn’t make it past the systems test.


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Good points. Del Rio by the Sea was definitely no cake walk, but everything after that seem a little less painful. If I do this, then I'm definitely going to treat it like UPT.


Thanks everyone else for your replies. Really help to filter through the chaff.
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:50 AM
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Gents, I see the company website has August hire FOs holding SAN. How long are they sitting reserve at SAN? Line holders, what kind of trips. How much open time is available/ actual flight hrs gained per month. SAN domicile is game changer for my situation. Although I miss out on bonus with compass in LA or NW with Horizon.
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Old 01-18-2018, 09:11 AM
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Gents, I see the company website has August hire FOs holding SAN. How long are they sitting reserve at SAN? Line holders, what kind of trips. How much open time is available/ actual flight hrs gained per month. SAN domicile is game changer for my situation. Although I miss out on bonus with compass in LA or NW with Horizon.
Be careful choosing an airline based on domiciles - especially at the regional level.
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:43 AM
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I am already living in SAN. It would allow for reserve flying with no commute and 121 with the same. I know ideally you should only have to commute to one job, but not commuting for both seems attractive
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