NewGuy01

Just an FYI. I've been here and voted no. Everyone I was in class with that I spoke with voted no.

I think it's kind of a bad idea to stereotype. Lots of us young punks voted no. We can see the writing on the wall.

With massive growth and soft landings 2.0 it's likely I'm going to get bypassed for upgrade since my 91/135 PIC time doesn't count. Since I still need 1000 121 to upgrade I'm guessing this will happen in the next year or so.

That is if this "massive growth" actually does manifest itself.


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flybywp

For those of us considering applying to SkyWest, could someone post the details of the new SkyWest pay package? Thanks!

amcnd

Oh boy. Your asking for it. (You will get every answer but what you aked for) . Basically the same thing, a bigger bonus, more 401k, and 2% on current payrates..

Bravix

Leaving out a few things that could come of this.

Soft Landings: Four year FO at another airline? Come on over to Skywest! You'll stay at four year longevity, and management retains the option to wave the company time requirement and can upgrade you immediately to captain! Sure, company could already do the latter part, but newcomers would take a pay hit. Now they won't, so more incentive to switch.

Another scenario. Captains from other airlines switch over to take advantage of the 401k. Guess who's upgrade time just went up in this scenario? Could suck to be an FO.

First year pay: Adjustable without pilot group say. Since they don't need to bargain with the pilot group, to change it, pilot group loses leverage to have other changes made. SAPA apparently has say in it, but looking at this agreement, I doubt they'd put up a fight.

All that being said, things could go just fine. But regardless, the pay increase was still pitiful, especially with the 5 year agreement. If it had been shorter, it'd be easier to swallow.

Will be interesting to see what comes of this. Maybe management isn't just being greedy and have some magnificent plan that will benefit us all. I can only hope!

trip

Well it's 2% this year (Jul 1) then 0% next year and 1% the remaining years. Astounding, but yeah, here's hoping for you newbies "fast" upgrade and call to the big leagues in 2-3 yrs.

skypine27

Outsider looking in (don't worry I'm not coming back to skywest!!):

Did they (management) actually extend the softlandings thing to other airline guys coming to skywest???

I have an ex ACA/IndyAir buddy starting class with you guys next month. Would he actually get some benefit from this?

Bravix

I honestly don't know if the idea is to make it for Expressjet pilots or everyone. Regardless, for your buddy, doubtful. Wouldn't have taken effect yet and I imagine there'd need to be some sort of agreement prior to actually scheduling ground. Talking out my rear at this point though, so someone more knowledgeable would have to clarify.

tcco94

Considering not that many people comment here (as far as variety in screen names) and the size of the FB group it really makes sense to me how it could have passed. I'm not one for conspiracy theories though that they made up the votes.

Just saying a large portion over 50+% don't comment on Facebook or the forums, so...

soakingpilot

are you sure about that? if that were really the case then I cant see how any FO would ever vote yes to this... I also never read anything which made me think that was something that was on the table..

Either way terrible vote and I realize that the pilot group at least 56% of em it would seem are spineless company men.

If anything I do hope new hires realize this and go somewhere else where their future will be for the next 6 - 8 years anyways.

Duesenflieger

Long enough to know what I want from the TA...and not as long as you've been trolling these forums.