News on the new Skywest pay package
06-29-2017, 02:15 PM
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06-29-2017, 06:09 PM
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News on the new Skywest pay package
And my point is that management and stockholders, you, have a different interest than pilots. Not a big revelation and it's not personal against you.
06-29-2017, 06:44 PM
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I don't have a link but I'll cut and paste it:
Vacation Accrual Rate
• Year 1: 7 days
• Year 2-6: 14 days
• Year 7-10: 21 days
• Year 11+: 28 days
Pay is 3.75 hours per day
Sick Time Accrual Rate
5 hours per month starting from the month of ground school
401k Matching
1-4 yrs service 100% up to 4%
5-9 yrs service 100% up to 5%
10+ yrs service 100% up to 6%
Defined Contribution Plan
1-4 years 2.5%
5-9 years 4%
10-14 years 5%
15-19 years 5.5%
20+ years 6%
When combining both the match and DC Plan, total company contribution (doesn't include pilot contribution):
1-5 years 6.5%
5-9 years 9%
10-14 years 11%
15-19 years 11.5%
20+ years 12%
Health insurance premiums:
Company pays 75%
Employee pays 25%
Long Term Disability:
Monthly benefit of 55% of hourly rate times 1,026 divided by 12, paid until age 65. Company pays 65% of premiums.
On the Job Injury bank of 400 hours:
Hours in your bank are used to make up the difference between Worker's Comp insurance and minimum monthly guarantee.
Sick note policy:
Unlimited sick calls with note from doctor
Commuter policy:
Can use three times in rolling 12 months if you give yourself one flight;
Can use unlimited if you give yourself two flights
Fatigue policy
Operational - pay protected
Pilot induced - sick bank
Not paid if you don't fill out fatigue report
Profit sharing:
6% of the net profit; and
50% of every dollar earned above $30 million annual pre-tax income
Bonuses:
2016 $1000
2017 $1500 + ($1500 for captains and $8500 for FOs)
$10k for new hires
Line building rules: maximum of 95 block hours but lines will not average more than 88 block hours.
Scheduling rules
No check in requirement
No reassignment windows
No assignment of reserve or airport standby to line holders
Trading: after lines built and adjustments made for contractual, FAR, training, vacation, etc, everyday except for 4 will be set a a positive coverage of +4 for trading in the initial line improvement window. After relief and reserve lines built, bad day worse day trades allowed, including reserve days.
Reserve rules:
At least 10% of reserve lines are long call (12 hours) and the rest are short call (2 hours). Floating reserve lines are built to have an additional 2 days off.
Airport standby (4 hours) is credited at 4 hours, minimum.
Cannot assign more than 6 days of airport standby in a month.
Cannot assign airport standby on consecutive days.
Cannot assign airport standby on last day of reserve before days off.
Automatically released at block in.
Automatically released at 1700 local on last day of reserve.
No ACARS reassignment
Vacation Accrual Rate
• Year 1: 7 days
• Year 2-6: 14 days
• Year 7-10: 21 days
• Year 11+: 28 days
Pay is 3.75 hours per day
Sick Time Accrual Rate
5 hours per month starting from the month of ground school
401k Matching
1-4 yrs service 100% up to 4%
5-9 yrs service 100% up to 5%
10+ yrs service 100% up to 6%
Defined Contribution Plan
1-4 years 2.5%
5-9 years 4%
10-14 years 5%
15-19 years 5.5%
20+ years 6%
When combining both the match and DC Plan, total company contribution (doesn't include pilot contribution):
1-5 years 6.5%
5-9 years 9%
10-14 years 11%
15-19 years 11.5%
20+ years 12%
Health insurance premiums:
Company pays 75%
Employee pays 25%
Long Term Disability:
Monthly benefit of 55% of hourly rate times 1,026 divided by 12, paid until age 65. Company pays 65% of premiums.
On the Job Injury bank of 400 hours:
Hours in your bank are used to make up the difference between Worker's Comp insurance and minimum monthly guarantee.
Sick note policy:
Unlimited sick calls with note from doctor
Commuter policy:
Can use three times in rolling 12 months if you give yourself one flight;
Can use unlimited if you give yourself two flights
Fatigue policy
Operational - pay protected
Pilot induced - sick bank
Not paid if you don't fill out fatigue report
Profit sharing:
6% of the net profit; and
50% of every dollar earned above $30 million annual pre-tax income
Bonuses:
2016 $1000
2017 $1500 + ($1500 for captains and $8500 for FOs)
$10k for new hires
Line building rules: maximum of 95 block hours but lines will not average more than 88 block hours.
Scheduling rules
No check in requirement
No reassignment windows
No assignment of reserve or airport standby to line holders
Trading: after lines built and adjustments made for contractual, FAR, training, vacation, etc, everyday except for 4 will be set a a positive coverage of +4 for trading in the initial line improvement window. After relief and reserve lines built, bad day worse day trades allowed, including reserve days.
Reserve rules:
At least 10% of reserve lines are long call (12 hours) and the rest are short call (2 hours). Floating reserve lines are built to have an additional 2 days off.
Airport standby (4 hours) is credited at 4 hours, minimum.
Cannot assign more than 6 days of airport standby in a month.
Cannot assign airport standby on consecutive days.
Cannot assign airport standby on last day of reserve before days off.
Automatically released at block in.
Automatically released at 1700 local on last day of reserve.
No ACARS reassignment
Is that health plan an HDHP? Do get to enroll in an HSA?
We don't have the policies (sick, commuter) but I also wouldn't want them. I'd hope everyone at xjet is taking full advantage of the 401k.
06-29-2017, 08:12 PM
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06-29-2017, 08:13 PM
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Accrual Rates of vacation and sick time (which I think converts to about a 10 year SKYW pilot ) was something I wanted addressed. 401k was addressed but no direct contribution.
Is that health plan an HDHP? Do get to enroll in an HSA?
We don't have the policies (sick, commuter) but I also wouldn't want them. I'd hope everyone at xjet is taking full advantage of the 401k.
Is that health plan an HDHP? Do get to enroll in an HSA?
We don't have the policies (sick, commuter) but I also wouldn't want them. I'd hope everyone at xjet is taking full advantage of the 401k.
The TA we had a couple of years ago had sick time accrual based on credit hours, increasing our share of insurance premiums up to 30%, getting rid of excused absences with doctor's note, lowering of 401k matching, and phase out of the direct company contribution plan, among a lot of other concessions.
The 401k matching is nice to have. But having the company also contribute extra regardless of whether you contribute or not is great. AWAC and piedmont have it as well. If a pilot is not at least putting in the minimum matching amount, then I don't know what to say except for that at least they still get the company contribution.
I hear you guys always say they wouldn't want a sick call or commuter policy. Honestly, I don't understand that. Why wouldn't you want an excused absence for having a doctor's note? If you call in sick and don't go to the doctor, then your absence goes as one attendance event. If you do get a note, it doesn't. It's up to you. And as for the commuter policy, again I don't get it. If you have 2 flights and can't make it, no fault no penalty. If you only give yourself one flight, you can only get away with that 3 times in the last 12 months. These things are in the contract. If you follow them, you will NEVER get in trouble or have to deal with talking to a Cheif pilot or anyone else about it. You turn in your paperwork (doctor's note or boarding passes) to the administrative assistant and never hear anything about it. Why wouldn't anyone want that?
As for the healthcare plans, there are 2 PPO, one EPO, and one HDHP with an HSA. Here they are:
06-29-2017, 11:21 PM
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Imagine calling in sick or missing your commute and then do nothing. That is what we do now.
Having to get out of bed or off the toilet to go sit in a waiting room to be told I'm sick sounds like torture....and expensive Mr. $20 Co-pay. I'm looking to lose at lest $100 out of pocket.
Sick calls arent "bad"* here because you can never be outside of policy. I call in without a second thought. (*they have been know to go after flagrant sick call abusers)
06-30-2017, 07:16 AM
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Not to sound lazy but this sounds like a lot of work.
Imagine calling in sick or missing your commute and then do nothing. That is what we do now.
Having to get out of bed or off the toilet to go sit in a waiting room to be told I'm sick sounds like torture....and expensive Mr. $20 Co-pay. I'm looking to lose at lest $100 out of pocket.
Sick calls arent "bad"* here because you can never be outside of policy. I call in without a second thought. (*they have been know to go after flagrant sick call abusers)
Imagine calling in sick or missing your commute and then do nothing. That is what we do now.
Having to get out of bed or off the toilet to go sit in a waiting room to be told I'm sick sounds like torture....and expensive Mr. $20 Co-pay. I'm looking to lose at lest $100 out of pocket.
Sick calls arent "bad"* here because you can never be outside of policy. I call in without a second thought. (*they have been know to go after flagrant sick call abusers)
Yeah, some people balk at having to get a doctor's note for the flu knowing that there is nothing a doctor can do that you don't already know. The upside is that if you do get a note, the sick call will never count as an attendance event. You can choose to participate or not. If you want to use the policy, it's there and there is nothing the Cheif pilot can do about it. Or you can do nothing as well. Same with a commute. You already get a boarding pass. Just turn it in or take a picture and email it. When you do that, your absence doesn't count as an attendance event and you can use it unlimitedly. There is no having to guess if you are going to get grief for not making your commute for the eighth time. It's written, everyone knows the rules, and if you follow them, everyone is happy.
But let me ask you, you don't have an attendance/reliability policy written in any of your manuals or employee handbook, etc?
06-30-2017, 07:20 AM
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What you are having a hard time grasping is that the SkyWest pilots don't have the same interest as you. And that is why you carpet bomb SkyWest threads with your union banter. But, from the looks of things you are doing more harm and damage for the union cause here than I could ever imagine doing with anything I have to say. And in the meantime, SkyWest will continue to grow, flow cash into it's partners pockets, and continue to make a profit. Guys will move on to majors, guys will stay, and guys will continue to put in their applications, all without a union.
It would appear to me, at least reading in here, that the guys wanting a union at SkyWest either a) work for a major b) work for another regional c) work for SkyWest and have zero intention on staying around and are waiting for that job at a major.
If there are any "lifers" as you guys call them here, that work for SkyWest and are hardcore pro union I would be curious to get their feedback on this...
It would appear to me, at least reading in here, that the guys wanting a union at SkyWest either a) work for a major b) work for another regional c) work for SkyWest and have zero intention on staying around and are waiting for that job at a major.
If there are any "lifers" as you guys call them here, that work for SkyWest and are hardcore pro union I would be curious to get their feedback on this...
I'm just stating facts. Management/stockholders have their set of interests. Pilots/employees have another set of interests. Some of those interests overlap, obviously. But not all of them do and total compensation is one of them. None of this has anything to do with unions, it's just fact.
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