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Old 06-28-2017, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
My answer would be that they simply staffed ahead of schedule for the additional 175 deliveries.
This is the correct response.

I have my sources.
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Old 06-28-2017, 06:37 PM
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Go work for a crap company then.

I already do. I'm just putting information out there for people to compare as I did with the xjt contract highlights. I can post that again for you to compare if you'd like?
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FYI, this is an LOA TSA just ratified a few days
Not really all the different from what we currently have. Some slightly better, some slightly worse.
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
And they are growing like a weed!! Oh..wait...

The economies of scale indicate that TSA has a lot less flights to spread their pilot cost around compared to Skywest.

Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Not really all the different from what we currently have. Some slightly better, some slightly worse.


How about the xjt contract highlights I posted?

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Old 06-28-2017, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SMACFUM
First, you don't need an MBA to see industry and labor trends, and their impact on market forces. You just need to open your eyes.

Second, people aren't complaining about "everything" and "anything". We're trying to maximize our leverage to gain the most we can out of this agreement before getting locked in for the next 5 years. It's negotiating, not a hand out. Stop being so eager to jump on the FIRST offer.

Third, I'd guess the reason you've never seen anything like this in your previous career is that you weren't under collective bargaining in your prior career. This industry isn't like others, even though we don't have a union we negotiate as a group. This is how it works, contention is part of it.

Finally, STOP capitulating pay for growth and new airplanes. Stop conflating the two issues of pay and growth!!! They are independent issues. It's that mentality and thinking which perpetuates the **** pay we have in this industry. You are part of the problem!!!
Exactly. These weirdos coming out of the woodwork who think a massive corporation has their best interest in mind above all else remind me of another group of pilots we have who think a certain large organization also has their best interest in mind and also follow unquestioningly along....It's almost like they were taught from birth to not question things or use critical thinking skills.
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
The economies of scale indicate that TSA has a lot less flights to spread their pilot cost around compared to Skywest.





How about the xjt contract highlights I posted?
Link?

They are now building a mx hangar in okc.
Dallas. Confirmed. No matter what you vote.
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They are now building a mx hangar in okc.
Dallas. Confirmed. No matter what you vote.
OKC hanger has been in the works for over 2 years. DFW? First i have heard of that one... OO has been behind the power curve when it came to MX bases. They went with the mega hanger strategy. Now it seems they are moving to medium size hangers spread out..
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OKC hanger has been in the works for over 2 years. DFW? First i have heard of that one... OO has been behind the power curve when it came to MX bases. They went with the mega hanger strategy. Now it seems they are moving to medium size hangers spread out..
More specifically is DAL for Alaskan, there's a lot pointing towards it.
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When do the results of the vote come out?
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
Yea exactly. Thus is the reason for my comment on growth. In this day in age it does not pay to remain stagnant, especially if you are in the regional business. So, to throw high 5's around for this all fine and dandy if you want to sink your tires deeper into the mud while the race is still going on. But hey, who cares right? People employed by airlines should only think about the now, because that is where it is at. Because we know every single regional pilot who wants to fly for a major is going to get hired. Just a matter of time. Plenty of jobs for everyone!
Does anyone ever wonder why this dude is here if he has never worked for Skywest?
And still constantly sarcastic. You'd have thought he would have learned to control himself after getting wrecked.
The thought that contracts buy airplanes has been proven false over and over. It's in the management playbook. Not good or bad, it's just a way for them to attempt to influence the negotiations, and I can understand that. If network thinks they need to get more jets......they are going to buy more jets
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