News on the new Skywest pay package
06-10-2017, 11:34 PM
#471
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Funny how anytime anything comes out on this TA. Its automatically "Jokes/Vote NO" Now that its been a week and the dust has settled I would like to see a more civilized discussion.. wont happen on this website. But seems to be happing in the airport, overnights and crew lounges...
Here he wants to stop the discussion in several ways:
1. He says civilized discussion won't happen on this website. Basically he calls us all a bunch of Neanderthals. He wants everyone watching the debate to view this as the thoughts of the uninformed and dim witted.
2. Next, he wants everyone's initial reaction to be discounted, after all we have all had a week to get used to the news that this is all we are worth.
3. He claims the "civilized discussion" is happening in the airport, overnights, and crew lounges. Is that under the watchful eye of management? Who talks like that? I imagine that they had about 6 of them an entire 8 ours trying to figure out how to phrase it like that.
I have not seen anything uncivilized in this discussion. I believe that what he, I really believe I should be saying "they", don't want are facts and logic brought into the conversation.
06-11-2017, 12:02 AM
#472
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CRJ flying in China, pay ranges from a low of 165,000 up to 235,000.
Skywest wants to go from 65 an our up to 66.30.
Here is another one 16000 to 18000 per month plus yearly bonuses.
https://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/14...OB-RecruitNet&
There is another one in London at 120,000.
These are new hire contract salaries, not after 15 years like in the US. The overabundance of pilots is over and salaries need to skyrocket to be an incentive for enough people to come into the field.
Just wait and you will get a lot more.
Skywest wants to go from 65 an our up to 66.30.
Here is another one 16000 to 18000 per month plus yearly bonuses.
https://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/14...OB-RecruitNet&
There is another one in London at 120,000.
These are new hire contract salaries, not after 15 years like in the US. The overabundance of pilots is over and salaries need to skyrocket to be an incentive for enough people to come into the field.
Just wait and you will get a lot more.
06-11-2017, 02:16 AM
#473
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Joined APC: May 2009
Posts: 2,035
So nobody can answer how you guys think it's logical to vote yes based off rumors. If all this was true why didn't they just tell us it before the package? Probably would sway more votes in their favor.
Instead we get vague emails that say "growth opportunities" and rumors flying left and right from people saying "I talked to____" "_____ sat in the jump and told me"
Seriously? That's how we vote for these things?
Instead we get vague emails that say "growth opportunities" and rumors flying left and right from people saying "I talked to____" "_____ sat in the jump and told me"
Seriously? That's how we vote for these things?
If "we" have a brain "we" vote NO, because this is pathetic.
06-11-2017, 07:30 AM
#474
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 103
Mesa's new TA bullet points:
Here is a sunmary:
CRJ900 and 900 Classic become one payrate after two years. (76/79 seat).
MEC voted it in 7-1 to send to pilots.
200 pay gone, all soft time will be paid at 76 seat rate first two years then 79 seat pay after the payscale merges.
FO pay 36/hr starting.
Actual block or better per flight leg.
Hotel language with short & Long overnights as well as giving the hotel committee control over decisions and forcing the company to maintain a more watchful eye.
Aggressive reserve pickup.
Short Call (2hr), Long Call (12-18hr)
Bidding opens 10th, schedules out 19th.
Layovers of 28 hours or more have 2.0 hours added to the pairing.
Max CRJ 900 CA Pay year 1 of contract is 108.00, max CA pay after 5 years is $114.35
Max FO pay is $52.00 year 1, $53.50 year 5.
People can bid from seat to seat, captains only, only 1% a year, so for 1100 pilots 11 people. Then you are seat locked for 3 years with a 1 year training contract.
Contract increases yearly, on top of structured rate. Raises 6 months before contract ends, and then 1% raise per year until a new contract is settled.
Parking is paid for if you commute.
Commuter clause up to 4x.
Deadhead pay 62.5%
Per diem 1.60 plus $40 a month for iPads in per diem. Goes up by .5c every year on top of CPI.
401k 0-9 years company matches 50% of to 6% of pilot contribution.
10+ years company matches 50% of up to 10% of pilot contribution.
Company must now present buffer numbers to union and reasoning to make sure no unreasonable numbers are attained.
Min guarantee increases from 75.83 to 76
llet points:
Here is a sunmary:
CRJ900 and 900 Classic become one payrate after two years. (76/79 seat).
MEC voted it in 7-1 to send to pilots.
200 pay gone, all soft time will be paid at 76 seat rate first two years then 79 seat pay after the payscale merges.
FO pay 36/hr starting.
Actual block or better per flight leg.
Hotel language with short & Long overnights as well as giving the hotel committee control over decisions and forcing the company to maintain a more watchful eye.
Aggressive reserve pickup.
Short Call (2hr), Long Call (12-18hr)
Bidding opens 10th, schedules out 19th.
Layovers of 28 hours or more have 2.0 hours added to the pairing.
Max CRJ 900 CA Pay year 1 of contract is 108.00, max CA pay after 5 years is $114.35
Max FO pay is $52.00 year 1, $53.50 year 5.
People can bid from seat to seat, captains only, only 1% a year, so for 1100 pilots 11 people. Then you are seat locked for 3 years with a 1 year training contract.
Contract increases yearly, on top of structured rate. Raises 6 months before contract ends, and then 1% raise per year until a new contract is settled.
Parking is paid for if you commute.
Commuter clause up to 4x.
Deadhead pay 62.5%
Per diem 1.60 plus $40 a month for iPads in per diem. Goes up by .5c every year on top of CPI.
401k 0-9 years company matches 50% of to 6% of pilot contribution.
10+ years company matches 50% of up to 10% of pilot contribution.
Company must now present buffer numbers to union and reasoning to make sure no unreasonable numbers are attained.
Min guarantee increases from 75.83 to 76
llet points:
06-11-2017, 11:04 AM
#476
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Joined APC: May 2009
Posts: 2,035
I doubt it, that would actually cost them more than the entire current existing offer.
06-11-2017, 12:24 PM
#478
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 103
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