News on the new Skywest pay package
06-09-2017, 10:55 AM
#463
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06-09-2017, 11:12 AM
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We have the biggest shortage of pilots since about 1963. The regionals are out of control with their first year bonus crap that the regional unions are allowing for some strange reason. First year guys are getting bonuses of 31000 at Air Wisconsin and 39000 if they are typed. At about all regionals, first year pilots make more than second and third year guys. At some they make more than a first or second year captains. The airlines figure that after year one people are basically locked in. And I guess they are correct, with our current structure.
This is stupid, stupid, stupid. Everyone reading this should be irate.
The bonuses need to stop. Pilot salaries in the regionals will skyrocket during the next few years, not just first year. Why would you want to lock yourselves in at the low rates that currently exist for the next 5 years?
If some idiot wants to fly planes at these low rates for the next 5 years, then let them. Skywest has 900+ guys who are qualified to fly as captains. If someone wants to have enough captains to fly 120 airplanes they have these choices:
1. They can go to Skywest;
2. They can go to Republic (which already pays more than Skywest)
3. They can go to an airline who will give a big enough incentive to guys at Skywest or Republic to go to that airline.
Otherwise, there are no captain qualified guys out there in any quantity, let alone quality.
Someone said that you can easily make upwards of 140,000 at Skywest, but there are not really a lot of guys who can do that. At 65 per hour you would have to credit 180 hours a month which is not easy to do.
Why does Skywest want to lock in pilot salaries, because they would be locking in their profit. Right now the real estate market is coming back in a lot of places. Would you not like to get an option to purchase for the next 5 years at today's prices plus 1%?
This is stupid, stupid, stupid. Everyone reading this should be irate.
The bonuses need to stop. Pilot salaries in the regionals will skyrocket during the next few years, not just first year. Why would you want to lock yourselves in at the low rates that currently exist for the next 5 years?
If some idiot wants to fly planes at these low rates for the next 5 years, then let them. Skywest has 900+ guys who are qualified to fly as captains. If someone wants to have enough captains to fly 120 airplanes they have these choices:
1. They can go to Skywest;
2. They can go to Republic (which already pays more than Skywest)
3. They can go to an airline who will give a big enough incentive to guys at Skywest or Republic to go to that airline.
Otherwise, there are no captain qualified guys out there in any quantity, let alone quality.
Someone said that you can easily make upwards of 140,000 at Skywest, but there are not really a lot of guys who can do that. At 65 per hour you would have to credit 180 hours a month which is not easy to do.
Why does Skywest want to lock in pilot salaries, because they would be locking in their profit. Right now the real estate market is coming back in a lot of places. Would you not like to get an option to purchase for the next 5 years at today's prices plus 1%?
06-09-2017, 11:43 AM
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Fact: I live in a shared room with 2 other people in the gentrified Logan Square and I base my budget around CTA, New Cut Above Shirts and Old Style.
Fact: I live in a shared room with 2 other people in the gentrified Logan Square and I base my budget around CTA, New Cut Above Shirts and Old Style.
06-09-2017, 02:05 PM
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Funny how anytime anything comes out on this TA. Its automatically "Jokes/Vote NO" Now that its been a week and the dust has settled I would like to see a more civilized discussion.. wont happen on this website. But seems to be happing in the airport, overnights and crew lounges...
06-09-2017, 02:48 PM
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06-09-2017, 03:04 PM
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Funny how anytime anything comes out on this TA. Its automatically "Jokes/Vote NO" Now that its been a week and the dust has settled I would like to see a more civilized discussion.. wont happen on this website. But seems to be happing in the airport, overnights and crew lounges...
Funny how a number of very reasoned arguments have already been shared and discussed yet some posters insist on rebuttals consisting of "pilots are stupid, if they weren't they'd vote yes like me....."
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