News on the new Skywest pay package
05-25-2017, 08:33 PM
#32
Dumb Pilot
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SkyW simply does not make the money to make it rain.
Do you want that 20K annual bonus that others get- A 50K bonus to each 4250 pilots on an average year wipes out every penny of profit this company makes. Dispatchers are in short supply and turning over to mainline just like pilots so they need more $. Mechanics are in the same boat so they need $.
Then their is Wall Street. They need bigger dividends and millions of dollars in crappy buy backs. The money isn't there.
Atlas Air Cargo pilots are exactly in the same boat as the rest of the contract world....the whole business is built on cheap labor.
Do you want that 20K annual bonus that others get- A 50K bonus to each 4250 pilots on an average year wipes out every penny of profit this company makes. Dispatchers are in short supply and turning over to mainline just like pilots so they need more $. Mechanics are in the same boat so they need $.
Then their is Wall Street. They need bigger dividends and millions of dollars in crappy buy backs. The money isn't there.
Atlas Air Cargo pilots are exactly in the same boat as the rest of the contract world....the whole business is built on cheap labor.
05-25-2017, 08:57 PM
#33
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 72
That's the whole point man, it should cost them more. For our sake it should cost them more. DL made 6bil, United 3 Bil, they can afford to pay a little more and by the way we still are way cheaper than it costs them to staff a route. They have other reasons for taking back the flying, it's not because we're too expensive
05-25-2017, 09:20 PM
#34
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
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Pilots are a commodity, just like fuel, and food, etc. I don't understand why pilots always think that they are the ones that should be the exception to the law of supply and demand. There are not enough pilots out there so the price should go up. How much Skywest, or United, or Delta makes is not a factor
I don't think Safeway is going to cut your grocery bill because Skywest doesn't make enough money to even give the pilots a cost of living raise. Endeavor is paying 20k per pilot bonus for all their pilots I believe. Envoy is paying 15k or something similar, AirWisconsin is giving a 39k bonus to go there with a type and 31k without.
On the other hand, a 1% raise to a 2nd year Skywest FO making 37.50 per hour would be 37 cents an hour. Pilots could do better if they just go through the plane at the end of the flight and pick up the dropped change.
The other airlines have raised their pay dramatically and they all need to if they want guys to come in the industry. Skywest is too big to be the lowest paid.
I suggest you let them keep the 37 cents and demand a raise for all the pilots, not just the first year. if not then everyone should just switch airlines each year.
I don't think Safeway is going to cut your grocery bill because Skywest doesn't make enough money to even give the pilots a cost of living raise. Endeavor is paying 20k per pilot bonus for all their pilots I believe. Envoy is paying 15k or something similar, AirWisconsin is giving a 39k bonus to go there with a type and 31k without.
On the other hand, a 1% raise to a 2nd year Skywest FO making 37.50 per hour would be 37 cents an hour. Pilots could do better if they just go through the plane at the end of the flight and pick up the dropped change.
The other airlines have raised their pay dramatically and they all need to if they want guys to come in the industry. Skywest is too big to be the lowest paid.
I suggest you let them keep the 37 cents and demand a raise for all the pilots, not just the first year. if not then everyone should just switch airlines each year.
05-25-2017, 11:47 PM
#35
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: Skeptical
Posts: 737
That's the whole point man, it should cost them more. For our sake it should cost them more. DL made 6bil, United 3 Bil, they can afford to pay a little more and by the way we still are way cheaper than it costs them to staff a route. They have other reasons for taking back the flying, it's not because we're too expensive
- You shouldn't be proud of that statement.
- "For your sake" you should hope that they take as much of that flying back, hire you to do it, but pay you three times the salary you make now.
You understand that the long term growth and success of the regional airlines hurts you individually, and the newest entrants to the industry generally, the most right?
05-26-2017, 06:13 AM
#36
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2011
Posts: 382
SkyW simply does not make the money to make it rain.
Do you want that 20K annual bonus that others get- A 50K bonus to each 4250 pilots on an average year wipes out every penny of profit this company makes. Dispatchers are in short supply and turning over to mainline just like pilots so they need more $. Mechanics are in the same boat so they need $.
Then their is Wall Street. They need bigger dividends and millions of dollars in crappy buy backs. The money isn't there.
Atlas Air Cargo pilots are exactly in the same boat as the rest of the contract world....the whole business is built on cheap labor.
Do you want that 20K annual bonus that others get- A 50K bonus to each 4250 pilots on an average year wipes out every penny of profit this company makes. Dispatchers are in short supply and turning over to mainline just like pilots so they need more $. Mechanics are in the same boat so they need $.
Then their is Wall Street. They need bigger dividends and millions of dollars in crappy buy backs. The money isn't there.
Atlas Air Cargo pilots are exactly in the same boat as the rest of the contract world....the whole business is built on cheap labor.
05-26-2017, 08:44 PM
#39
Prime Minister/Moderator
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05-26-2017, 08:54 PM
#40
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 12
I'm a 10 year captain and will easily make $110k, no over time. Do 3 year mechanics really make that? I'll go back to school and switch jobs tomorrow.
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