News on the new Skywest pay package
05-25-2017, 05:04 PM
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05-25-2017, 05:29 PM
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Dude... If you'd been here for the last pay package fiasco you'd know exactly what everyone else is talking about. You'll see what we mean. I promise.
05-25-2017, 05:45 PM
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While I have no complaints about the overall experience as a new hire , I do think that skywest has begun to fall behind on competitive compensation, and sure we may be filling classes but are they the best candidates or simply warm bodies that somehow manage to stumble their way through aqp? I'm hopeful skywest managment sees the value in investing in the pilot group to attract the last remaining best candidates.
Though I'm not holding my breath.
05-25-2017, 07:20 PM
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Clearly I'm playing devils advocate that I don't have my pitchfork ready and attitude to fight everything on this forum?? I could really care less about first year pay. Anyone who came to this company for first year pay wasn't really smart. We've been the bottom of competition for a while so clearly assuming that's what I want is wrong. I have interests in pay for long term as well.
05-25-2017, 07:21 PM
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SkyW simply does not make the money to make it rain.
Do you want that 20K annual bonus that others get- A 50K bonus to each 4250 pilots on an average year wipes out every penny of profit this company makes. Dispatchers are in short supply and turning over to mainline just like pilots so they need more $. Mechanics are in the same boat so they need $.
Then their is Wall Street. They need bigger dividends and millions of dollars in crappy buy backs. The money isn't there.
Atlas Air Cargo pilots are exactly in the same boat as the rest of the contract world....the whole business is built on cheap labor.
Do you want that 20K annual bonus that others get- A 50K bonus to each 4250 pilots on an average year wipes out every penny of profit this company makes. Dispatchers are in short supply and turning over to mainline just like pilots so they need more $. Mechanics are in the same boat so they need $.
Then their is Wall Street. They need bigger dividends and millions of dollars in crappy buy backs. The money isn't there.
Atlas Air Cargo pilots are exactly in the same boat as the rest of the contract world....the whole business is built on cheap labor.
05-25-2017, 07:23 PM
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SkyW simply does not make the money to make it rain.
Do you want that 20K annual bonus that others get- A 50K bonus to each 4250 pilots on an average year wipes out every penny of profit this company makes. Dispatchers are in short supply and turning over to mainline just like pilots so they need more $. Mechanics are in the same boat so they need $.
Then their is Wall Street. They need bigger dividends and millions of dollars in crappy buy backs. The money isn't there.
Atlas Air Cargo pilots are exactly in the same boat as the rest of the contract world....the whole business is built on cheap labor.
Do you want that 20K annual bonus that others get- A 50K bonus to each 4250 pilots on an average year wipes out every penny of profit this company makes. Dispatchers are in short supply and turning over to mainline just like pilots so they need more $. Mechanics are in the same boat so they need $.
Then their is Wall Street. They need bigger dividends and millions of dollars in crappy buy backs. The money isn't there.
Atlas Air Cargo pilots are exactly in the same boat as the rest of the contract world....the whole business is built on cheap labor.
05-25-2017, 07:34 PM
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Indeed, but if you read United's 10K they point out to investors that while they are purchasing fewer block hours of contract feed year over year the total cost of regional feed is increasing, negating any cost savings.
It's incremental.
It's incremental.
05-25-2017, 07:37 PM
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If you guys read the last InPrint Q1 2017, MT specifically talks about cost and economics being factors in securing new flying. This was basically him saying "hey, if we pay you less, we can get more flying."
SkyWest Airlines - InPrintQ1-2017online
SkyWest Airlines - InPrintQ1-2017online
05-25-2017, 07:40 PM
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Our history of contract negotiations aren't hidden. My point wasn't to say history doesn't repeat itself. The point was people are arguing and fighting over an email that has no meaning. And we have an entire thread geared around talking about details of the email?! What details? I get it vote no because first offer is low ball.
Clearly I'm playing devils advocate that I don't have my pitchfork ready and attitude to fight everything on this forum?? I could really care less about first year pay. Anyone who came to this company for first year pay wasn't really smart. We've been the bottom of competition for a while so clearly assuming that's what I want is wrong. I have interests in pay for long term as well.
Clearly I'm playing devils advocate that I don't have my pitchfork ready and attitude to fight everything on this forum?? I could really care less about first year pay. Anyone who came to this company for first year pay wasn't really smart. We've been the bottom of competition for a while so clearly assuming that's what I want is wrong. I have interests in pay for long term as well.
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