News on the new Skywest pay package
06-03-2017, 12:10 AM
#271
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The question before us now is where does the supply curve meet the demand curve? I suspect it's north of the graphs we were supplied with. Unfortunately, I don't know of any formally-trained economists or financial analysts currently serving in SAPA, so correctly pricing our services will prove difficult. (Not for nothing, but ALPA has such resources and this is why.)
The company is aggressively pursuing market share, that much is clear. Partnering with them in this endeavor will certainly reap rewards for the pilot group but let's not sell ourselves short.
Personally, I'll await the company's follow-up offer.
06-03-2017, 02:39 AM
#273
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Not likely. Last year bunch of ERJ's we won by Mesa/Republic. And so will this opportunity... you dont think that other airlines are bidding for this flying?? They are.. We need to stay top notch yet competitive... this TA does both.. is our PPm a shiny brick of gold above all other airline contracts... NO.. but its close to the top in all areas.
06-03-2017, 03:18 AM
#274
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You have a brain that's why it makes no sense.
They have a chance to completely dominate the regional industry, yes or no from the pilots will likely not impact this at all.
But... if they really wanted this thing to pass providing even some detail into the alleged growth would certainly push this thing through. The guy on the call claimed GM was running around this morning saying 120 airplanes and the SAPA guys with NDA's were dead silent.
Something like this from the company would get everyone all hopped up on the kool aid and it would easily pass.
They have a chance to completely dominate the regional industry, yes or no from the pilots will likely not impact this at all.
But... if they really wanted this thing to pass providing even some detail into the alleged growth would certainly push this thing through. The guy on the call claimed GM was running around this morning saying 120 airplanes and the SAPA guys with NDA's were dead silent.
Something like this from the company would get everyone all hopped up on the kool aid and it would easily pass.
06-03-2017, 03:48 AM
#275
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Look what's happening to XJT? Do you want that here? They came to us early and offered us a raise in order to project costs for new flying. I know it's a pilots job to complain about everything, but at some point you have to be thankful we don't have the same problems as most other regionals. If you want to make more, there are other companies out there who sell their own tickets. They can do this, a contract carrier is limitied in what they can offer.
06-03-2017, 03:52 AM
#276
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Even without it (growth). Its a good deal.. i would eventually like to see some changes to Vacation accrual, sick time, ect. But. It we do get even 1/2 the growth they are saying. Thats going to get me a better schedule, all 900 flying. Thats a 6-8% raise on its own right there... I remember when i thought SkyWest would never have more then the 10 original CRJ's. ..
06-03-2017, 03:54 AM
#277
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Not likely. Last year bunch of ERJ's we won by Mesa/Republic. And so will this opportunity... you dont think that other airlines are bidding for this flying?? They are.. We need to stay top notch yet competitive... this TA does both.. is our PPm a shiny brick of gold above all other airline contracts... NO.. but its close to the top in all areas.
06-03-2017, 04:09 AM
#278
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Voting NO. SAPA and the company must not have been serious about wanting to get the contract extended.
Send it back, let them sit down again and tweak it to make some meaningful changes.
They can start by listening to the pilot group and working on some QOL improvements. Some of which will cost them absolutely nothing! Others which will cost them very little.
Stop saying QOL improvements will follow a successful pay agreement. They will not. If you want QOL improvements they need to be tied in with the pay package because the only time the company will listen is when it affects them financially, during pay negotiations when they NEED us to agree on a new pay package.
Wake up and look at the state of the industry- the need for pilots has never been greater. Take pride and value yourself for what you do. You're a professional pilot, you should be paid and treated like one.
Send it back, let them sit down again and tweak it to make some meaningful changes.
They can start by listening to the pilot group and working on some QOL improvements. Some of which will cost them absolutely nothing! Others which will cost them very little.
Stop saying QOL improvements will follow a successful pay agreement. They will not. If you want QOL improvements they need to be tied in with the pay package because the only time the company will listen is when it affects them financially, during pay negotiations when they NEED us to agree on a new pay package.
Wake up and look at the state of the industry- the need for pilots has never been greater. Take pride and value yourself for what you do. You're a professional pilot, you should be paid and treated like one.
06-03-2017, 04:13 AM
#279
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So let me get this straight. Inc is making huge profits. Stock near all time high. Spending extra cash on stock buy backs. And you all are willing to take a 1% raise and little if any QOL improvements. No retention bonus. 1st year. Still below $40/hr.
Taking this deal for a promise of more plans that r coming your way regardless. This is basically the pilots financing the aircraft.
SMH
Taking this deal for a promise of more plans that r coming your way regardless. This is basically the pilots financing the aircraft.
SMH
06-03-2017, 04:44 AM
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Not likely. Last year bunch of ERJ's we won by Mesa/Republic. And so will this opportunity... you dont think that other airlines are bidding for this flying?? They are.. We need to stay top notch yet competitive... this TA does both.. is our PPm a shiny brick of gold above all other airline contracts... NO.. but its close to the top in all areas.
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