Tippy

Nope, just nope.... I dont expect the moon at a regional level, but expect more than crumbs.

"we have pushed the company beyond their comfort level in terms of cost"

Thats a good one! this Doesnt even keep up with the cost of living/inflation. Therefore this actually MAKES the company more money in the long run.

Mistek89

[QUOTE=prc4prc;2373030]As someone with less than a year on property, I have 2 goals. Leave ASAP and if possible upgrade. Being an FO at a regional... Well... Enough said. Do more airplanes = a faster upgrade? I don't know. No regional FO payscale is going to match 2nd year regional CA pay - which is a livable wage. There is not enough information with what was put out today to say yes.

FO pay, in my opinion should not be the bellwether for anyone. CA pay should.

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FO pay should be increased , in my opinion it should be in the upper $40 mark . Guess what while waiting to upgrade to captain people have bills to pay and want to live a normal life . People like you are the problem . But then again this is probably your first job so you are entitled to everything .

AUpilot77

Not disagreeing about the package being a joke but while your statement is correct, the percentage increase per year that each pilot makes does go up more than 3% a year. The 1% increases are for same year pay (if you were stuck at for example 5 year pay). Since no one is unless you're an 8 year FO, each pilot adds 1% to the difference between the previous years current and next year pay. Not 1% to your pay last year.

Timmay

I said the same thing about Trump during last year's election.

amcnd

And i never thought flightinfo.com would be a ghost town.. if you guessed the outcome from this or any forum board alone. Your way off. 80% of SkyWest pilots haven't heard of this forum or even our own sapa forums... Voter turnout has always been the weakness of SkyWest.. Me personally im voting Yes.. i want the 401k and im very smart with my money, i want the growth. My main issue is i would luke to be more senior.. getting growth is the only way that will help me..

Read RJ's opening page. That is good info. And make most realize were we are and were that will put us. Not just in pay but in position for the future...

For those that just blurt out "vote No". I ask. Do you call and listen to the sapa conference calls?, do you talk to your reps? The answer is probably not. Because the call turn out is less the 100. Thats out of 4297 pilots...

AUpilot77

Do you think it'll pass? It seems the loudest crowd is usually the ones that vote no while the silent majority may very well push it to a yes. I wouldn't say no to more money but like you I'm content with where I'm at and the growth opportunity rumors that are floating around could be huge. Enough to hopefully lead to more new bases besides BOI and SAN.

I came to SkyWest for the culture and the success of the company. If I wanted higher pay I wouldn't be here. I looked at our June routemap and we've added stuff like RDU to 3 Florida cities... I just can't wrap my mind around the typical pilot mentality that if the company makes money then it's a bad sign.

Wilson03

I think this is a pretty accurate thought-out assessment. No one is doing cart wheels but there are still QOL improvements. There were a lot of "I'm saying NO" before the contract was even released. The company is doing well and continues to grow. It will be interesting to see what happens. I am not saying vote one way or another but I think the knee-jerk responses need to maybe take a deep breath and calmly vote what makes sense for them. Best of luck to everyone!

Utah

Some things to consider.... Our current pay package doesn't expire for over another year. July 1st 2018. This 2% increase would happen a year early.

I like most everything except the 1% that happens 2-4 years from now. It's low, especially in this environment.

FO rates only going to $37.xx first year? Seems crappy as well.

tcco94

Why can't they tell us the growth then? Why have we had 2 emails that claim this pay package must go through for growth "opportunity" but no one knows what it is. So you're going to vote yes because of the rumors here about extra flying?

Surely I didn't come here for the pay either but this package isn't very competitive. How it got voted 18-1 is beyond me. Clearly SAPA has proven to a lot of people voting for their 1st package here that they have the interests of management and not the pilot group.

AUpilot77

Yeah I was hoping for something along the lines of $40 first year without a drop the second. But there must be a reason we're growing faster than any regional and for some reason we still keep getting new hires despite not having a good bonus upfront.