News on the new Skywest pay package
06-02-2017, 06:17 AM
#221
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I'm not crazy about this either....I'm glad first year FOs are making a living wage. But, I'm tired of them getting 50% pay increases while the people on property get 1 or 2%.
06-02-2017, 06:18 AM
#222
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06-02-2017, 06:26 AM
#223
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Actually, I should clarify. I get why the bonuses aren't included in the chart. It's because doing so puts us at the top. While I don't think bonuses are the only answer to the problem I do think they help. After 1 year of working at OO even with the rate at $36.50 I made about $24k because all that time in training just slows you down. I know, poor me, back in your day you made $16 an hour first year and starved to death before you hit that second year pay increase.
The fact of the matter is middle class wages are not even keeping up with inflation and cost of living, and this 'extension' is a perfect example.
06-02-2017, 06:26 AM
#224
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I love the no raise in 2018. They just skipped a year. Actually impressed by the balls it took for them to put that in there. Boom time for airline profits and were asked to accept a 0% raise in 2018. Lol
The note about giving the company the freedom to raise first year to pay at their discretion is good too. And the threats on lost flying opportunities.
Beatings continue until morale improves
The note about giving the company the freedom to raise first year to pay at their discretion is good too. And the threats on lost flying opportunities.
Beatings continue until morale improves
06-02-2017, 06:27 AM
#225
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I want to know who the 1 rep was that voted this down and I think he needs to be the next president. This is a joke. It's 1% a year and they didn't even bother to match the xjt retirement. If your not getting 3%/year you are taking a pay cut.
06-02-2017, 06:36 AM
#226
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As someone with less than a year on property, I have 2 goals. Leave ASAP and if possible upgrade. Being an FO at a regional... Well... Enough said. Do more airplanes = a faster upgrade? I don't know. No regional FO payscale is going to match 2nd year regional CA pay - which is a livable wage. There is not enough information with what was put out today to say yes.
FO pay, in my opinion should not be the bellwether for anyone. CA pay should.
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FO pay, in my opinion should not be the bellwether for anyone. CA pay should.
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06-02-2017, 07:06 AM
#227
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As someone with less than a year on property, I have 2 goals. Leave ASAP and if possible upgrade. Being an FO at a regional... Well... Enough said. Do more airplanes = a faster upgrade? I don't know. No regional FO payscale is going to match 2nd year regional CA pay - which is a livable wage. There is not enough information with what was put out today to say yes.
FO pay, in my opinion should not be the bellwether for anyone. CA pay should.
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FO pay, in my opinion should not be the bellwether for anyone. CA pay should.
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My goals are similar to yours and so is my seniority, but I believe we should be asking for what we are worth as professionals. You think regional FO is some 'meh, anyone could do it' kind of job? It took me a huge amount of effort and sacrifice to even get to this entry level. The company is offering crumbs to us, when we are absolutely vital and skilled and underpaid workers. I'm not saying we should be making CA pay but 37.30 or whatever it is is simply not enough for the bases they have us in except for maybe Detroit.
06-02-2017, 07:22 AM
#229
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You guys have called everything pretty much correct lately. BOI/SAN bases, pay negation rumors and the 2/0/1/1/1 raise is pretty much on point with what you all argued it would be.
I'm impressed. I'll take your word now
I'm impressed. I'll take your word now
06-02-2017, 08:09 AM
#230
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Skywest has always had a very good group of upbeat and nice pilots.
Unfortunately that gives management no reason to pay you more. It stinks the world works this way but nice guys finish last. Only way to force a pay raise in the airline industry is lack of pilots applying and/or very disgruntled pilot group. Skywest has never had much of either.
Unfortunately that gives management no reason to pay you more. It stinks the world works this way but nice guys finish last. Only way to force a pay raise in the airline industry is lack of pilots applying and/or very disgruntled pilot group. Skywest has never had much of either.
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