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Old 05-26-2012, 08:16 PM
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Four Utah men died in the crash of a single-engine, private plane early Saturday.

The Cessna 172 crashed under unknown circumstances at the St. George Municipal Airport, said Ian Gregor, communications manager for the Federal Aviation Administration’s Western-Pacific Region. "We are not certain what phase of flight the aircraft was in when it crashed," he said.

The single-engine plane crashed in the early hours but was not discovered until 6 a.m. when airport workers arrived to do routine safety checks of the grounds.

The plane crashed about 300 feet from the south end of the runway.

Marc Mortensen, assistant to the St. George city manager, told KUTV Channel 2 that the four men killed were from the area.

Mortensen said it appears everyone on board died on impact. The victims’ next of kin were being notified, he said.

Gregor said the FAA and National Transportation Safety Board will investigate the crash.

A basic preliminary report is posted on NTSB’s website within a week or two of an accident, he said.

Gregor added that it typically takes the NTSB months to determine an accident’s probable cause.

Because of the location of the crash, operations at the St. George airport on Saturday were not being affected.


Four Utah men killed in small plane crash near St. George airport | The Salt Lake Tribune

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RIP. I hope nobody from SKW was involved, but I have a bad feeling about this.
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Looks like the terrain drops 100ft due to rwy gradient, then a ~300 ft drop after that. If they were heavy men (RIP) taking off with full fuel, the airplane may have accelerated and then simply dropped off the end, or attempted a climb and then stalled. These airplanes do not carry 4 big people well. Anyway, NTSB will determine.
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Cubs has a good take on this. The first thing that jumped at me was 4 men in a 172 - that could be a tight squeeze under the flight envelope (if W & B was even checked that is).

Whatever the cause: Tail winds aviator.
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Brad Holt's son was onboard, experienced commercial pilot so I doubt it was four big guys, full fuel, and high density altitude. Brad is super-senior SKW pilot and VP; doubt his kid would make a dumb PPL mistake.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
. Brad is super-senior SKW pilot and VP; doubt his kid would make a dumb PPL mistake.
Brad is currently the President of Expressjet. Was the ASA president since 2007.

Tragic news. Lot of young lives lost..
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
Looks like the terrain drops 100ft due to rwy gradient, then a ~300 ft drop after that. If they were heavy men (RIP) taking off with full fuel, the airplane may have accelerated and then simply dropped off the end, or attempted a climb and then stalled. These airplanes do not carry 4 big people well. Anyway, NTSB will determine.
You are not thinking of the old SGU airport from a couple years ago are you?

Anyways, we've had some high winds recently in the SW, and I have friends camping in Utah that have reported some extremely high winds during today and yesterday (especially yesterday). 4 "men" and not kids is also interesting.
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Yeah and it looks like the new one only has a 30 ft drop, something of a improvement. There could also be a dip or gradient, don't have the info handy.
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
Yeah and it looks like the new one only has a 30 ft drop, something of a improvement. There could also be a dip or gradient, don't have the info handy.
Yeah, it's much better. It's out in flat-open terrain, kind of SE of the city (takes a while to get to and from the city actually). The old one was a: "if you go off the end, you'll be flying, it's just a matter of for how long"-runway. Mesa type. Like where I did my first flight ever, PVF.
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Video footage showed the plane "ascending rapidly" then left the field of view only to come back in it descending rapidly...

Sad.
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