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Old 08-29-2011, 06:59 PM
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The runway length isn't the problem there, it is the width. I've been there a couple times this past month, and when it is raining with a crosswind, that runway look really small. I also like the 10 minute taxi from the terminal to runway 28.

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Old 08-29-2011, 08:24 PM
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Dude, Xjguy, relax.......
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Old 08-29-2011, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Yes - fatigue is the buzz word isn't it. It fits lots of situations, and many times is tried to force into situations too.

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How dare you refer to fatigue as a buzzword.

I did a continuous duty overnight today and slept from 9AM to 2pm when I got home.

The thing is, I could have had an entire workday scheduled after our early arrival because our layover time at the hotel was actually long enough to be called a reduced rest layover. Which, according to xjtguy, is what this crew had done not long before this incident took place.

So while I was able to come home and sleep as long as I wanted, I could have been in that plane landing on a 75 foot wide runway when, as evidenced by how long I slept when I got home, my body would have not been in any other rest state than one of fatigue.
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Close this thread, I cant stand reading another annoying post from XJTGUY
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Close this thread, I cant stand reading another annoying post from XJTGUY
A shame because there is a lot of good info on this thread (RWY width, NWS malfunctions, crew rest).

Do airlines place restrictions against FO's landing on such a narrow runway? What type of guidance was disseminated on operating from KMLI during runway construction?
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Old 08-30-2011, 04:52 AM
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Wao, it sounds like an uncommanded swirving on landing. That is one of the scariest things on the E145... The crew did a good job...
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by xjtguy
Nope, just trying to get people to realize this crew may not need an "alibi" based on previous issues with the aircraft type. I really couldn't care less if that's a military term or not, it's pretty poor to use it in a situation like this. It seems as if somebody disagrees with you or has a different thought process than you, you get defensive. Sorry, you've got to be able to accept criticism yourself if you're gonna hand it out
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:58 AM
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Well then, reading some of the posts on this thread I think we all know who one of the crew members was.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by propfails2FX
A shame because there is a lot of good info on this thread (RWY width, NWS malfunctions, crew rest).

Do airlines place restrictions against FO's landing on such a narrow runway? What type of guidance was disseminated on operating from KMLI during runway construction?
The runway is 100' wide. The width of the runway didn't have anything to do with the event.
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Southerner
The runway is 100' wide. The width of the runway didn't have anything to do with the event.
The ASAP ERC was late last week and the preliminary data was reviewed;

1) The touchdown was extremely smooth, despite a passenger's claim to the contrary
2) It happened at high speed as well as aggressively.
3) The crew reacted quickly and aggressively. Despite having the crap kicked out of them bouncing around and things flying all over the cockpit.

From what was garnered, a wider runway and it would have been just another slow news day in Moline.
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