Xjet skids off runway
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Are you aware of the history of the aircraft and it's uncommanded nosewheel steering tendencies?
As well as the XJT's requirement for a memory item dealing with such?
So I'll ask you the same, what makes you think a alibi is necessary? To add, do you have the facts to make a determination as to what the cause was? Does a nice/happy METAR mean NOTHING else could have happened![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
That scenario is given on A LOT of PCs. Also, look at how narrow the runway is there.
As well as the XJT's requirement for a memory item dealing with such?
So I'll ask you the same, what makes you think a alibi is necessary? To add, do you have the facts to make a determination as to what the cause was? Does a nice/happy METAR mean NOTHING else could have happened
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That scenario is given on A LOT of PCs. Also, look at how narrow the runway is there.
But the good thing about the NTSB is that they will be looking at ALL possibilities. Does a nice/happy METAR mean NOTHING else could have happened? I'm not even sure where you are trying to go with that question; but something obviously DID happen.
You seem to be jumping to conclusions about NWS problems as quickly as you are jumping on others asking about weather conditions. Supposition goes both ways.
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No need to ask me anything. You'll need to point out to me from my post however where you think I said an alibi was necessary. I'm not making any determinations here. Of course with any safety training, the first look would go to environmentals when you hear about an aircraft going off the runway. If I am sitting in my cubicle today and someone calls out "Hey - an aircraft went off the runway at XXXX, then the first thing crossing my mind would probably be "I wonder what the weather was?"
But the good thing about the NTSB is that they will be looking at ALL possibilities. Does a nice/happy METAR mean NOTHING else could have happened? I'm not even sure where you are trying to go with that question; but something obviously DID happen.
You seem to be jumping to conclusions about NWS problems as quickly as you are jumping on others asking about weather conditions. Supposition goes both ways.
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You seem to be jumping to conclusions about NWS problems as quickly as you are jumping on others asking about weather conditions. Supposition goes both ways.
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Again, don't really appreciate the condescending tone you're taking.
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I didn't take that from his post.
Maybe the benefit of the doubt should be given when determining the tone of a written web board posting. (the tone there was sarcasm)
Same with your posts.
Maybe the benefit of the doubt should be given when determining the tone of a written web board posting. (the tone there was sarcasm)
Again, don't really appreciate the condescending tone you're taking.
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Impossible, I blame the pairing build software.
OK, fair enough, how about we just leave it with this then, whaddya think?
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The tone of your post indicated otherwise. Actually, in this day and age, the first things I think of is "I wonder if was something fatigue related?".
The choice of the word "alibi" is pretty poor in something like this. But feel free to disagree. If maybe you aren't thinking SOMETHING else maybe worthy of an "alibi", maybe you are't using your head? Don't really appreciate the condescending tone.
Google "EMB145 uncommanded nose wheel steering".
Again, don't really appreciate the condescending tone you're taking.
The choice of the word "alibi" is pretty poor in something like this. But feel free to disagree. If maybe you aren't thinking SOMETHING else maybe worthy of an "alibi", maybe you are't using your head? Don't really appreciate the condescending tone.
Google "EMB145 uncommanded nose wheel steering".
Again, don't really appreciate the condescending tone you're taking.
Anybody could say anything about the situation right now and you would be defensive about it.
Another poster simply posted a METAR for the mishap time.
Yes - fatigue is the buzz word isn't it. It fits lots of situations, and many times is tried to force into situations too.
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Looking at the pairing they were on, probably inconclusive whether or not it could be a contributing factor. Show times were all over the place with an RR overnight tossed in. But flying 121, and the crappy schedules that go along with it, I'd hardly call fatigue a buzzword.
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