USMCFLYR

No need to ask me anything. You'll need to point out to me from my post however where you think I said an alibi was necessary. I'm not making any determinations here. Of course with any safety training, the first look would go to environmentals when you hear about an aircraft going off the runway. If I am sitting in my cubicle today and someone calls out "Hey - an aircraft went off the runway at XXXX, then the first thing crossing my mind would probably be "I wonder what the weather was?" If you think that deductive reasoning is asking for an alibi then maybe you aren't the one using your head?
But the good thing about the NTSB is that they will be looking at ALL possibilities. Does a nice/happy METAR mean NOTHING else could have happened? I'm not even sure where you are trying to go with that question; but something obviously DID happen.
You seem to be jumping to conclusions about NWS problems as quickly as you are jumping on others asking about weather conditions. Supposition goes both ways.

USMCFLYR

xjtguy

The tone of your post indicated otherwise. Actually, in this day and age, the first things I think of is "I wonder if was something fatigue related?".

The choice of the word "alibi" is pretty poor in something like this. But feel free to disagree. If maybe you aren't thinking SOMETHING else maybe worthy of an "alibi", maybe you are't using your head? Don't really appreciate the condescending tone.

Google "EMB145 uncommanded nose wheel steering".

Again, don't really appreciate the condescending tone you're taking.

captain beefy

I blame PBS

BlueMoon

I didn't take that from his post.


Maybe the benefit of the doubt should be given when determining the tone of a written web board posting. (the tone there was sarcasm)

Same with your posts.

xjtguy

Impossible, I blame the pairing build software.

OK, fair enough, how about we just leave it with this then, whaddya think?

donk74

Isn't MLI where they are landing on the Taxiway that is about 75' wide, while they are resurfacing the runways?

rickair7777

It's military-speak...I just said that Wx did not appear to be a factor.

USMCFLYR

You're reading that condescending tone in there xjtguy.
Anybody could say anything about the situation right now and you would be defensive about it.
Another poster simply posted a METAR for the mishap time.
Yes - fatigue is the buzz word isn't it. It fits lots of situations, and many times is tried to force into situations too.

USMCFLYR

Quagmire

MLI's open runway gives the impression of a 6500 foot long cart path. Due to all of the construction, that place is a mess.

xjtguy

Nope, just trying to get people to realize this crew may not need an "alibi" based on previous issues with the aircraft type. I really couldn't care less if that's a military term or not, it's pretty poor to use it in a situation like this. It seems as if somebody disagrees with you or has a different thought process than you, you get defensive. Sorry, you've got to be able to accept criticism yourself if you're gonna hand it out

Looking at the pairing they were on, probably inconclusive whether or not it could be a contributing factor. Show times were all over the place with an RR overnight tossed in. But flying 121, and the crappy schedules that go along with it, I'd hardly call fatigue a buzzword.