SWA Rapid Decompression
04-02-2011, 07:05 PM
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I still can't find an article on any Alaska 737 having a hole in the cabin. Which would be significant since their planes are not that old, unless it was a 732 but still can't find anything there.
There was a Alaska MD-83 that lost pressurization due to a hole, but that hole was caused by the ground crew.
There was a Alaska MD-83 that lost pressurization due to a hole, but that hole was caused by the ground crew.
04-02-2011, 07:05 PM
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If SWA needs some planes to replace the aging 737-300, they could get a great deal on the 717-200 parked at Victorville. I know it is not the same AC but when you have up to 80+ Ac parked what choice do you have. Plus if SWA plans to grow FL out of ATL up and down the east coast why no increase the number of 717's. Boeing has 25+ from Mexicana sitting and I would guess they would give SWA great lease rates on them.
04-02-2011, 07:21 PM
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If SWA needs some planes to replace the aging 737-300, they could get a great deal on the 717-200 parked at Victorville. I know it is not the same AC but when you have up to 80+ Ac parked what choice do you have. Plus if SWA plans to grow FL out of ATL up and down the east coast why no increase the number of 717's. Boeing has 25+ from Mexicana sitting and I would guess they would give SWA great lease rates on them.
They have outstanding orders for 133 737/8s and lots more options for more.
And if I'm not mistaken, the talk isn't a lot about growing ATL, it seems the prize was/is NYC followed by receiving the income from AAI's existing and large ATL hub.
04-02-2011, 09:45 PM
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I still can't find an article on any Alaska 737 having a hole in the cabin. Which would be significant since their planes are not that old, unless it was a 732 but still can't find anything there.
There was a Alaska MD-83 that lost pressurization due to a hole, but that hole was caused by the ground crew.
There was a Alaska MD-83 that lost pressurization due to a hole, but that hole was caused by the ground crew.
I know of two SWA 737's. This one and another in July 2009.
There was also an American 757 in the past year. The 757 uses the same top as the 737-300.
There is the Aloha 732, but that is pretty old and may not have any relation to current 733 and 757 events.
I am not aware of any Alaska 737 holes.
04-02-2011, 11:07 PM
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I believe that issue was a design flaw of the body. Something about how the rivets were all in a line so when part of it started to go it ripped right down them like a zipper. After that I think they started staggering the rivets to keep that from happening. Someone who flies a 73 go take a look!
Corrective action was required on several Boeing models utilizing the same design. Lap joints were inspected with ultrasound and x-ray, lap joints were opened, epoxy sealant removed, any corrosion addressed, aluminum retreated and resealed, and larger rivets used to close the lap joints.
04-03-2011, 02:37 AM
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Where did Alaska 737 blowout come into this? I dont think Alaska had one.
I know of two SWA 737's. This one and another in July 2009.
There was also an American 757 in the past year. The 757 uses the same top as the 737-300.
There is the Aloha 732, but that is pretty old and may not have any relation to current 733 and 757 events.
I am not aware of any Alaska 737 holes.
I know of two SWA 737's. This one and another in July 2009.
There was also an American 757 in the past year. The 757 uses the same top as the 737-300.
There is the Aloha 732, but that is pretty old and may not have any relation to current 733 and 757 events.
I am not aware of any Alaska 737 holes.
, I thought I'd go look and haven't yet found such an incident.Its called cycles you junior PhD aero experts....SWA flies way more cycles per month on a jet than most airlines I surmise.
I fly them and I used to build em so ...hmmm.
Would take a Boeing over a Airbus any day for durability. No....757 and 737 dont share a common fuselage barrel ...d'oh.
Calm down and say " aging aircraft issues". Good thing the who section didnt peel back ala Alaska 737.
Let the OEM and NTSB do their work folks and breath easy.
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I fly them and I used to build em so ...hmmm.
Would take a Boeing over a Airbus any day for durability. No....757 and 737 dont share a common fuselage barrel ...d'oh.
Calm down and say " aging aircraft issues". Good thing the who section didnt peel back ala Alaska 737.
Let the OEM and NTSB do their work folks and breath easy.
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04-03-2011, 03:57 AM
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Just want to chime in with a possible reason for the hole in the fuselage. Boeing assembly uses rivets and a "cold bonding" process on the fuselage stringers.
A great weight saving idea, but eventually moisture finds its way into the "bonded" area. After time if not found, corrosion forms and weakens the "bonded" area.
The nines I have flown at NWA are very old. Some of the 30's were from 1967 ! And they did have some corrosion problems. Maint told me that because of the thicker skin, and only riveted joints, they could remove the corrosion, re-rivet the joint, and then paint it.
Newer aircraft are using thinner skins, that are to thin to be repaired. And if corrosion is found, the skin has to be replaced.
Kudos to the SW Crew for a great job !! Thankfully, no one got sucked out of the hole.
A great weight saving idea, but eventually moisture finds its way into the "bonded" area. After time if not found, corrosion forms and weakens the "bonded" area.
The nines I have flown at NWA are very old. Some of the 30's were from 1967 ! And they did have some corrosion problems. Maint told me that because of the thicker skin, and only riveted joints, they could remove the corrosion, re-rivet the joint, and then paint it.
Newer aircraft are using thinner skins, that are to thin to be repaired. And if corrosion is found, the skin has to be replaced.
Kudos to the SW Crew for a great job !! Thankfully, no one got sucked out of the hole.
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