US Air crash
01-16-2009, 03:37 AM
#261
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Is successfully crashed the same as successfully ditched? Some years ago, a 707 got a "bit" low on a nonprecision overwater approach in Africa. She settled out of ground effect and came to rest just off the beach, albeit with no attached powerplants or landing gear. Fuselage and wings stayed intact and no injuries, as I recall. Pics are somewhere in cyberspace.
707's are overbuilt, thankfully. I still bet my life on that hunk of 1950's iron.
BTW, today's USAir crew are freakin' rock stars. You can chair-fly that scenario in bed at night till you turn blue; to have it happen and pull it off to a wildly successful conclusion in six minutes in plain sight of lower Manhattan is legendary.
707's are overbuilt, thankfully. I still bet my life on that hunk of 1950's iron.
BTW, today's USAir crew are freakin' rock stars. You can chair-fly that scenario in bed at night till you turn blue; to have it happen and pull it off to a wildly successful conclusion in six minutes in plain sight of lower Manhattan is legendary.
Joe
01-16-2009, 04:30 AM
#262
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It really does amaze me that the only person getting credit for this is the "captain" (at least on most news outlets). Did he work alone? Why the big push for CRM if we don't give credit to the rest of the crew? Were their any FA's on this plane? Not to discredit the captain, but their were more people involved in this other than him..........including a bunch of quick thinking boats/crews that were on scene in a matter of minutes to help rescue the passengers. So, my hat is off to ALL of them.........
01-16-2009, 04:40 AM
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While we all know the FO was there playing a big part, unfortunately the public doesn't know that. Im sure that eventually the Capt. will be interviewed, and he will bring the crew into the spotlight just as Al Haynes did.
Think of it this way....
After a big surgery, the SURGEON gets the credit. Nobody mentions the RNs or the Anesthesiologist. Nobody mentions the hours of work accomplished later by the Physical Thearapist to get the person back to normal. It is the SUREGEON.
Think of it this way....
After a big surgery, the SURGEON gets the credit. Nobody mentions the RNs or the Anesthesiologist. Nobody mentions the hours of work accomplished later by the Physical Thearapist to get the person back to normal. It is the SUREGEON.
01-16-2009, 05:31 AM
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...A few (40?) years ago JAL landed a DC-8-61 short of the runway in the bay at SFO. UAL ended up with the salvage rights, towed it out of the bay, dried it off, and flew it for another 20 years. Of course, that POS never did get completely fixed. It seemed like there was an electrical problem almost every trip....
Was that Tokyo Rose?
Was that Tokyo Rose?
01-16-2009, 05:50 AM
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Yes, the F/O was Jeff Skiles. He and Sully are CLT based and both deserve kudos for what they did. I've known Sully for quite a while and you will not find a more proffesional person in this industry not to mention that he is as good a person as a pilot and I for one am proud to call him friend. Think about this, the two of them have 52 years combined at USAirways and probably somewhere between 40,000 to 50,000 hrs. Not too shabby! 
01-16-2009, 06:01 AM
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I just did a quick calculation using Google Earth.
The NJ side of the GW Bridge is a tad over 5 miles from the threshold of 24 at TEB. A standard 3:1 (with power) glideslope would have needed them at 1,500ft over the bridge, and the reports are that he was at 900ft. No way they would have made it.
Great decision that saved all aboard and many more on the ground. Capt. Sully and his FO are the new Al Haynes.
The NJ side of the GW Bridge is a tad over 5 miles from the threshold of 24 at TEB. A standard 3:1 (with power) glideslope would have needed them at 1,500ft over the bridge, and the reports are that he was at 900ft. No way they would have made it.
Great decision that saved all aboard and many more on the ground. Capt. Sully and his FO are the new Al Haynes.
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