Another SWA Incident-Depart on Closed Runway
08-01-2024, 08:28 AM
#11
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I wouldn't be quite so sure about that. The CA's statements seemed to indicate that he was trying to both takeoff before the tower opened, and also after the closure NOTAM expired. That's not possible, there's no regulatory microsecond where neither condition applies. The ERC might not be able to get to "inadvertent" on this one. I recall a similar kind of thing once where the PM tried to BS center on the radio, but the PF (presumably the CA) stepped in and confessed on the radio to set the record straight. ERC would have rejected it otherwise, but they had a good laugh and accepted the asap since the crew did the right thing in short order.
I'm pointing this out for the benefit of others, it's easy to forget that ASAP won't cover you if it's an intentional violation, or you try to hide something.
I'm pointing this out for the benefit of others, it's easy to forget that ASAP won't cover you if it's an intentional violation, or you try to hide something.
In general, when there is even a question of intent, they err to the side of covering the event under the safety umbrella in order to preserve the sanctity of the anonymous reporting program.
If anyone is wondering, that's a very good thing.
08-01-2024, 08:53 AM
#12
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Having seen some of the insanity that ASAP has covered that I wouldn't have thought, I am willing to bet you a 6 pack of Pepsi that it is covered by ASAP and that the crew is already back flying. I have no inside knowledge nor do I know who the crew is.
In general, when there is even a question of intent, they err to the side of covering the event under the safety umbrella in order to preserve the sanctity of the anonymous reporting program.
If anyone is wondering, that's a very good thing.
In general, when there is even a question of intent, they err to the side of covering the event under the safety umbrella in order to preserve the sanctity of the anonymous reporting program.
If anyone is wondering, that's a very good thing.
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