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Old 10-23-2023, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
When pilots cant commute to base and flights start to cancel, thats when they care. Every airline has a commuter clause and if pilots were required cabin only, those clauses would be in full effect and being used more than ever. Mayor Pete would not like those cancelation numbers.
Yes .gov will probably not go there because it would be MASSIVE disruption for the entire airline industry (except maybe G4).

In addition to the obvious short-term pain, the airlines would have to pony up even more long-term to pay pilots to live in high-cost, deep-blue, metro area poop-holes. Or pos space commutes, whichever is cheaper for management.
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Old 10-23-2023, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
This. The current system is so outdated its scary.

This isn't true. The FAA and specifically the new Federal Air Surgeon has made tremendous strides in addressing mental health. There are several pilots who have gone out on SSRIs and who are flying again. Yeah if you have an issue maybe you need some time off to deal with it. There's nothing unreasonable about that. But there are pathways back now.
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Old 10-23-2023, 09:25 AM
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Nothing changed after FedEx 705 and nothing will change after this incident. Now does anyone know anything about the guy or have any stories? I want gossip!
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Old 10-23-2023, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FreqFlyer
What makes you think that?
Sarcasm?????
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Old 10-23-2023, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer
why am I not surprised!
To turn this into another legacy v red tail is just beyond sorry… as a legacy hire.
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Originally Posted by WhisperJet
This isn't true. The FAA and specifically the new Federal Air Surgeon has made tremendous strides in addressing mental health. There are several pilots who have gone out on SSRIs and who are flying again. Yeah if you have an issue maybe you need some time off to deal with it. There's nothing unreasonable about that. But there are pathways back now.
If this is true, which it may very well be, then the FAA needs to do a lot of PR to ease pilots minds that its OK to have a problem and you wont be staring down the barrel of losing your livelihood. I mean if the FAA is ok with 400lb pilots, they should be OK with pilots who are on a treatment plan for a mental disorder (again lets all assume we are not talking about suicide, dementia and their likes).
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Will the feds come down even harder now on pilots seeking help for mental health issues or maybe see it’s time for some reform to help these people.
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Old 10-23-2023, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
If this is true, which it may very well be, then the FAA needs to do a lot of PR to ease pilots minds that its OK to have a problem and you wont be staring down the barrel of losing your livelihood. I mean if the FAA is ok with 400lb pilots, they should be OK with pilots who are on a treatment plan for a mental disorder (again lets all assume we are not talking about suicide, dementia and their likes).

I agree with you. The word is getting out more though. Contact your company's peer support committee as they will probably have the most up to date info. AMAS also has the details, as do AMEs, HIMS AMEs, the FAA AME Guide, etc.
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Originally Posted by WhisperJet
This isn't true. The FAA and specifically the new Federal Air Surgeon has made tremendous strides in addressing mental health. There are several pilots who have gone out on SSRIs and who are flying again. Yeah if you have an issue maybe you need some time off to deal with it. There's nothing unreasonable about that. But there are pathways back now.
So it turns out you are correct and I am glad to hear it, I just wish the FAA would be more transparent, perhaps having AME's bring up the fact that they are working hard to improve this.

When I read this:
"A 2022 study published in the Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine found that 56.1 percent of pilots reported a history of health care avoidant behavior related to fear of losing their aeromedical certificate, and nearly 27 percent indicated misrepresenting or withholding information on their aeromedical screening for the same reason."

I dont get a warm and fuzzy that the FAA is doing enough to educate pilots. I am happy to hear there is at least someone trying to make changes.
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Originally Posted by WhisperJet
I agree with you. The word is getting out more though. Contact your company's peer support committee as they will probably have the most up to date info. AMAS also has the details, as do AMEs, HIMS AMEs, the FAA AME Guide, etc.
Fair enough, seems we are on the same page, thankfully this doesnt affect me but you never know if it will.
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