QX2059 Jumpseater tries to shutdown engines
12-12-2023, 09:27 AM
#491
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Or they're convictions from decades in the past or a single mistep in an otherwise spotless record. Things happen. People change. It's not that hard to believe. I have spoken to more than 1 individual who did one stupid thing when they were a kid, learned from it and changed their lives. What do I know? Obviously nothing compared to John.
I think I draw the line at pre-meditated violence.
Other than that you really need to question whether that person should be in 121. Yes some people can change later in life, but in most cases repeat offenses and behavior after age 25 are pretty indicative of who you really are. That's established science. Ask the actuaries... Hertz won't rent to people under age 20-ish and there's an extra fee undere age 25..
12-12-2023, 10:08 AM
#492
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If we're talking felonies, I might be willing to give somebody one pass for one incident that wasn't too egregious, prior to age 25-ish, and 10+ years in the past. Situationally dependent.
I think I draw the line at pre-meditated violence.
Other than that you really need to question whether that person should be in 121. Yes some people can change later in life, but in most cases repeat offenses and behavior after age 25 are pretty indicative of who you really are. That's established science. Ask the actuaries... Hertz won't rent to people under age 20-ish and there's an extra fee undere age 25..
I think I draw the line at pre-meditated violence.
Other than that you really need to question whether that person should be in 121. Yes some people can change later in life, but in most cases repeat offenses and behavior after age 25 are pretty indicative of who you really are. That's established science. Ask the actuaries... Hertz won't rent to people under age 20-ish and there's an extra fee undere age 25..
12-12-2023, 03:03 PM
#493
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If we're talking felonies, I might be willing to give somebody one pass for one incident that wasn't too egregious, prior to age 25-ish, and 10+ years in the past. Situationally dependent.
I think I draw the line at pre-meditated violence.
Other than that you really need to question whether that person should be in 121. Yes some people can change later in life, but in most cases repeat offenses and behavior after age 25 are pretty indicative of who you really are. That's established science. Ask the actuaries... Hertz won't rent to people under age 20-ish and there's an extra fee undere age 25..
I think I draw the line at pre-meditated violence.
Other than that you really need to question whether that person should be in 121. Yes some people can change later in life, but in most cases repeat offenses and behavior after age 25 are pretty indicative of who you really are. That's established science. Ask the actuaries... Hertz won't rent to people under age 20-ish and there's an extra fee undere age 25..
12-12-2023, 04:00 PM
#494
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12-12-2023, 06:53 PM
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But you'd think if it involved an airplane it would be SIDA no-go???
12-12-2023, 08:02 PM
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12-13-2023, 08:10 PM
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Am I remembering correctly that he then lied about the conviction and got pulled out of class at some regional and then Mesa took him after being fired?
BTW what he did while flying was MUCH worse than drug running.
https://www.cleveland.com/nation/201...de_fake_d.html
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2013...sky_man_t.html
12-14-2023, 05:45 AM
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That guy is at a major now?? WTF
Am I remembering correctly that he then lied about the conviction and got pulled out of class at some regional and then Mesa took him after being fired?
BTW what he did while flying was MUCH worse than drug running.
https://www.cleveland.com/nation/201...de_fake_d.html
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2013...sky_man_t.html
Am I remembering correctly that he then lied about the conviction and got pulled out of class at some regional and then Mesa took him after being fired?
BTW what he did while flying was MUCH worse than drug running.
https://www.cleveland.com/nation/201...de_fake_d.html
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2013...sky_man_t.html
I would say it wasn't nearly as bad as drug running, and he was very young when it happened. He initially made an honest mistake, and then doubled down by lying about what he saw because he was afraid of incorrectly assumed consequences. I could tolerate him being in 121 years later, assuming he learned his lesson and isn't some kind of wingnut.
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