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Old 12-11-2023, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Back that up.

You "guarantee" that every operator has "many pilots" with felony convictions?

Show your work.

Stan just asked you if "You actually think there are no convicted felons who hold current ATPs or for that matter, fly 121?" Your reply was "yep." A plain English rendering of his question, which you quoted, and to which you replied, asks if you belive there are no felons with ATPs or who fly for Part 121, and you replied "yep." Your reply, indicating that you do believe there are no convicted felons who hold current ATP's or fly under Part 121, is contradicted by your subsequent statements that you "guarantee" pilots with felony convictions are found at "every single operator."

You state you believe that there are no felons with current ATP certificates or operating under 121, then turn around and "guarantee" that every operator employs them.

Do you actually think before you touch a keyboard?

Let's see your guarantee.
I do believe it is you who is now misquoting. I'm not even sure what you are asking here or who you are asking it of. Yes there are felons working at every major. Do you think they're all going to raise their hands and tell their stories?
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Old 12-11-2023, 10:25 PM
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It's all you.

Stan asked if you believe there are no convicted felons who hold ATP's or work in Part 121. YOu said "yep," showing that you believe this to be true.

You turned around and stated uniquivocally that you "guarantee" that "every operator" employs felons.

These two statements are in direct contradiction. You state you believe one thing, and profess another that you cannot prove, and now you respond by suggesting that you think majors have felons, but you can't identify them because they won't raise their hand. You State you believe one thing, profess another; which is the truth, and which is the lie?

Your guarantee is looking sketchy there. You can't show it, can you?

You've narrowed your goalposts to only "majors."

Careful walking it all back. You'll trip and hurt yourself.
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Old 12-12-2023, 06:12 AM
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I think Stan was agreeing with Word but didn't quote very well.
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Old 12-12-2023, 06:55 AM
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001...38900830760842

It's not at all hard to believe.
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Old 12-12-2023, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
It's all you.

Stan asked if you believe there are no convicted felons who hold ATP's or work in Part 121. YOu said "yep," showing that you believe this to be true.

You turned around and stated uniquivocally that you "guarantee" that "every operator" employs felons.

These two statements are in direct contradiction. You state you believe one thing, and profess another that you cannot prove, and now you respond by suggesting that you think majors have felons, but you can't identify them because they won't raise their hand. You State you believe one thing, profess another; which is the truth, and which is the lie?

Your guarantee is looking sketchy there. You can't show it, can you?

You've narrowed your goalposts to only "majors."

Careful walking it all back. You'll trip and hurt yourself.
Lol man, Stan's poor quoting ability has you all twisted up now. Again, have a Snickers.
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Old 12-12-2023, 08:17 AM
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No snickers required. You can't back up your guarantee. You lied. That's all you need say.

But then, you don't really need to say it, do you? It's obvious.
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Old 12-12-2023, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
No snickers required. You can't back up your guarantee. You lied. That's all you need say.

But then, you don't really need to say it, do you? It's obvious.
You're right John. I'm wrong John. There are no felons working in the industry. I'm a giant liar. Feel better?
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Old 12-12-2023, 08:39 AM
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You stated that you agree there are no convicted felons who hold ATP's or who work under Part 121. Rickair777 has defended you, suggesting it was a bad quote from Stan, but YOU made the quote and responded to it, so again, it's you.

You stated that you guarantee there are convicted felons at every operator.

You narrowed your guarantee to only major airlines.

You've backpedled again.

No snickers required, though you do elicit snickers. One lie after another, and yet you're still digging.

As one unworthy of further conversation, you're easily solved:

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Old 12-12-2023, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
You stated that you agree there are no convicted felons who hold ATP's or who work under Part 121. Rickair777 has defended you, suggesting it was a bad quote from Stan, but YOU made the quote and responded to it, so again, it's you.

You stated that you guarantee there are convicted felons at every operator.

You narrowed your guarantee to only major airlines.

You've backpedled again.

No snickers required, though you do elicit snickers. One lie after another, and yet you're still digging.

As one unworthy of further conversation, you're easily solved:
The most amusing part is the guy who went on a rant for me misquoting him has misquoted just about eveyone in his last 2 posts. I'm sure being right all the time is hard though.
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Old 12-12-2023, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
A felony doesn't absolutely preclude an ATP. The good moral character thing is very nebulous.

You'd have more trouble with SIDA, depending on the crime.
Or they're convictions from decades in the past or a single mistep in an otherwise spotless record. Things happen. People change. It's not that hard to believe. I have spoken to more than 1 individual who did one stupid thing when they were a kid, learned from it and changed their lives. What do I know? Obviously nothing compared to John.
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