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Old 10-24-2023, 12:10 PM
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Pure speculation on my part but I Feel like that was attorney saying hey man you have two choices here: 1. Spend the rest of your life in prison. 2. Say you took some drug they can't test for, and yeah you will lose your job but probably not do much prison time if any at all
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Originally Posted by tunes
Pure speculation on my part but I Feel like that was attorney saying hey man you have two choices here: 1. Spend the rest of your life in prison. 2. Say you took some drug they can't test for, and yeah you will lose your job but probably not do much prison time if any at all
^^^^ this ^^^^
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Old 10-24-2023, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
No. The bottles don't discharge into the hot section. If they did, the halon would just instantly blow right out the tailpipe.

Bottles have nothing to do with engine relight either way. All you need is to push the handle back in, and some time and altitude.
Well there ya go, I learned something today! Thank you. Thought that once you blew the bottles, the likelihood of a restart was significantly lower.
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Old 10-24-2023, 12:22 PM
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CVR should provide a little more insight. I'm sure this is a pullable event.
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Old 10-24-2023, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
Pure speculation on my part but I Feel like that was attorney saying hey man you have two choices here: 1. Spend the rest of your life in prison. 2. Say you took some drug they can't test for, and yeah you will lose your job but probably not do much prison time if any at all
This was my first thought as well.
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Old 10-24-2023, 12:28 PM
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Federal prosecutors allege Emerson — who was authorized to ride in the cockpit’s jump seat — was having a casual conversation with the captain and first officer when he said, “I’m not OK,” and tried to grab two red handles that activate the plane’s fire suppression system and cut off fuel to its engines.

Emerson later told responding officers he believed he was having a “nervous breakdown,” had not slept in 40 hours and admitted to taking psychedelic mushrooms for the first time, court filings said.

One of the pilots then grabbed Emerson’s wrist while the other pilot declared an in-flight emergency, according to court filings. An initial struggle ensued between Emerson and the pilots before he “quickly settled down” and left the cockpit, federal prosecutors wrote.
Even if the guy is telling the truth (and yeah, Oregon and California have taken steps to decriminalize ‘magic mushrooms’ and Washington is studying it) actually taking them has to be the most idiotic and selfish thing he could have possibly done.

The guy was making a third of a million dollars a year. The FAA and Alaska would now be insane to ever let him fly again, even if he somehow beats the federal charges. He’s screwed over not just himself - who actually deserves the screwing over) but his family as well.
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Old 10-24-2023, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
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Even if the guy is telling the truth (and yeah, Oregon and California have taken steps to decriminalize ‘magic mushrooms’ and Washington is studying it) actually taking them has to be the most idiotic and selfish thing he could have possibly done.

The guy was making a third of a million dollars a year. The FAA and Alaska would now be insane to ever let him fly again, even if he somehow beats the federal charges. He’s screwed over not just himself - who actually deserves the screwing over) but his family as well.
I agree with everything you said here, but I'm not optimistic he'll beat all charges either way. Think about it like this: if this guy got sh*tfaced drunk or took THC edibles and got high and then got in the JS and did this exact thing, would he be able to beat the charges just because alcohol and THC are legal? He admits to taking mushrooms so even if they don't find it in his system, he's literally admitting to it either way. He might get off of the attempted murder charges but this dude is going to serve some time in jail/prison, and his career is over.
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Old 10-24-2023, 12:39 PM
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Everyone's missing the real question. Can I trade my vacation blocks in December?
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Old 10-24-2023, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by paulcg77
I agree with everything you said here, but I'm not optimistic he'll beat all charges either way. Think about it like this: if this guy got sh*tfaced drunk or took THC edibles and got high and then got in the JS and did this exact thing, would he be able to beat the charges just because alcohol and THC are legal? He admits to taking mushrooms so even if they don't find it in his system, he's literally admitting to it either way. He might get off of the attempted murder charges but this dude is going to serve some time in jail/prison, and his career is over.
Ah, but is an “additional crew member” REALLY a crew member..?

You know some shyster lawyer (are there any other kinds?) is going to put the question to the jury, trolling for sympathy. And for a hung jury, they only need to get one.
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Old 10-24-2023, 12:48 PM
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Everyone's missing the real question. Can I trade my vacation blocks in December?
For what? A Miata?
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