QX2059 Jumpseater tries to shutdown engines

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10-24-2023, 05:49 AM

#231

rickair7777

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy

…along with a discernible name? Preconceived notions and biases.

Or maybe just because I know the guy...

10-24-2023, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by thrust

Interesting… either way, seems like lots more to this incident.

As I've said before this is going to be weird.

10-24-2023, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnBurke

One that should not be discussed here.

What he said.

10-24-2023, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ObadiahDogberry

Was flying for a European carrier last summer and it was required by the CAA to have an FA in the flight deck when a pilot took a trip to the lavatory.

Well that's good. Not sure if the policy that flip-flopped was LH/German Wings or CAA. Maybe it was initially just operator policy. But it definitely went back and forth in the aftermath.

10-24-2023, 06:01 AM

#235

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Originally Posted by JohnBurke

Have any of you ever done maintenance test flights, and shut off engines with the T-handles?

It takes a lot longer to shut down than you might think.

And even if they flame out they'll relight instantly when you restore fuel if the N2 hasn't spooled down too much (assuming some kind of auto-ignition for uncommanded rollback/low N2). Worst case you might have to remember to turn on the ignition.

10-24-2023, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy

Preconceived notions and biases.

You mean like your statement that anyone unvaccinated is a threat to society……. that’s the thing about biased, prejudiced, or racist people. You don’t have to ask, just observe and they’ll give themselves away…..

10-24-2023, 06:04 AM

#237

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Originally Posted by TegridyFarms

What does the previous administrator in the job he had previous to being administrator have to do with this incident? Not a good take on your part.

I’m guessing he was referring to Pilot mental health being weaponized.

10-24-2023, 06:21 AM

#238

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Originally Posted by flightbag

It's early in the investigation. The cockpit voice recorder should be interesting to say the least. Is it possible that this was all a mis understanding?

I understand that Joseph Emerson is a well respected pilot. This would be totally out of character for him. I'm waiting for the results of a complete investigation.

This is the way. We really don't know what happened, and the rumors could be false.