Originally Posted by PorkyMcFuzz

At my airline we got taught that a pull of the handle was something you could reset, a pull AND a twist and that was it for the engine.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

What the h3ll does skin color have to do with anything?

Originally Posted by flydrive

I remember being taught the same, and yes this was for an E-JET type. However, during recurrent one year the systems instructor posed the question as to how we could disable the aircraft in order to prevent a hostile from starting up the engines and flying away with it. Naturally we all suggested blowing the bottles, but we were then informed that, while doing so would legally down the engine, they could still be physically started.

Originally Posted by noisecanceller

i don’t care what anyone advertises. Every six months it’s an exercise to earn back the right to earn our living. They don’t take it away. You go in with it gone at the end of the month and have to hope the guy with the pen lets you have that right back for another six months.

It’s no wonder people are less than forthcoming with information or forego many versions healthcare so it’s not on the record. The faa hunting through medical and pharmacy records hoping to find offenders isn’t helping. Now that everything is electronic i bet the level of healthcare avoidance has gone way up from when everything was held in a wall of paper files.

“oh, we’re here to help you get back to flying if you have an issue” is such bs. What they really mean is they take away your living and make you jump through a bunch of nonsensical hoops and paper pushing and observation periods while your case sits at the bottom of a massive stack of other cases. Meanwhile days, weeks, months, years tick by while you don’t get a paycheck and they are supposed to be the champions helping you get back in the cockpit. My ass. Anything but. Even the best ltd isn’t anywhere close to full income replacement. The faa needs to start picking up the difference between your last w2 and your ltd payout unless you’re a clear and present danger or let guys get the care they need mental of physical without the thought of losing their livelihood every six months or less.

Originally Posted by Arado 234

Unfortunately this is nothing new. Remember JAL flight 350? The (working) Captain pulled back all four engines mid-flight (and might have put them in reverse) on a DC-8 and killed 24 people by doing this.

Pilot mass suicides have occurred previously (Germanwings, Silk Air, possibly MH370 and the Chinese air carrier I cannot think of), so mental health is definitely an issue. Banning the JS wouldn't be a step in the right direction but we're talking about the FAA here whose previous administrator has grounded a DL pilot due to bogus mental health issues while he was something higher up like the director of Ops.

Originally Posted by Fly4FunAA

On the bright side, Single pilot just got pushed back decades with this one.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

And it changed right back a couple years later, guess the FA's couldn't be bothered. Business as usual.

Originally Posted by PlaneS

curious as to what his answer was…

Originally Posted by CBreezy

I've been hearing a rumor that not everything is as it seems with this incident. Anyone else hearing it?