Originally Posted by CoefficientX

I hope he gets locked up for the rest of his life. I couldn’t care less about getting him help. I have a hard time finding compassion for someone who attempted to kill that many innocent lives.

I’m a compassionate person but mass murderers don’t need help. They need to be locked up forever.

Originally Posted by rdneckpilot

why?


the jump seater was a line qualified airline pilot. Nothing to stop them from doing this at work vs on the jumpseat. What reasonable world would we say it’s ok to fly an airliner but not ok to ride in the jumpseat. That’s just stupid.

Originally Posted by ugleeual

Only way to stop a JS’r from doing this would be to ban JS in its entirety.

Originally Posted by PipeMan

IMHO, cockpit JS should only be allowed for traveling to/from an assignment, and only on the pilot’s own metal. No cockpit JS for leisure travel, only cabin.

On other airlines, leisure or to work but cabin only.

This event was bound to happen, not a matter of it, but when.

Originally Posted by PipeMan

Is anyone like me where you get scared going in to work and flying? I think of the actual flying the plane as a hobby for me more or less, but I have thought about retiring and even home schooling my youngest. I am able to "work from home" with my other job sometimes so this will help. I get nervous going out to grocery stores and such and try to only go during times I know very few people are there, but I find it hard to escape that when going to airports and hotels.

The airports and downtown hotels are so crowded and always think people may make them a target of violence. Thankfully I don't do many overnights due to my bidding seniority and living close to the airport. I don't even park in the employee parking lot anymore because it forces us to walk through the front entrance where people are dropped off/picked up. I only park in the paid garage where passengers park so I can walk right to security. Sucks to pay that every time but I find it worth it. I know, I know, I shouldn't look at the news and see all the violence and shootings going on, I am working on this.

Just curious if anyone else has these thoughts. I'm sure homeschooling and doing more work around the house can keep me busy, but I would feel a bit "lost" not getting to fly cool jets occasionally.

Originally Posted by PlaneS

Nothing changed after FedEx 705 and nothing will change after this incident. Now does anyone know anything about theSucceeded
or have any stories? I want gossip!

Originally Posted by fireman0174

Big difference. FedEx 705 was a cargo-liner. Unless they crashed into a building, it's page 3 or 4 in the paper. Page 1 if this guy had succeeded.

Originally Posted by symbian simian

And that short sighted mentality will do absolutely nothing to resolve future events like this. It has absolutely nothing to do with compassion. Regardless of him being locked up or not, he will never have a chance to get back to 121 flying. But locking him up will send a very clear message to anybody struggling with mental health issues: don't try to get help. Obviously it's wrong to try to kill 60+ people. But he was willing to die to make that happen, so I doubt that similarly inclined individuals would be deterred by the threat of punishment. It's not about if he deserves help, it's about the fact that not giving him help will lead to more, not less events like this.
Read about the German wings case. Did that pilot belong in the cockpit? No, but him knowing he would lose his job if he sought help is what pulled the trigger.

Originally Posted by PlaneS

Well, this has been making the headlines pretty consistently today.

As far as pax vs cargo, nothing happened after Germanwings, which was way more catastrophic. I’m not inclined to believe anything will change as a result of this; it will be treated the same way, as a crazy pilot who isn’t the norm and therefore isn’t representative of any overall trend that demands legislation to fix.