Republic or Endeavor?
09-12-2016, 10:11 AM
#51
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We have auto throttles though. And think of any city that has air service in the islands. We fly there.
You're first two paragraphs are contradicting....
Republic and endeavor are both REGIONALS. They both pay about the same after its all said and done. They both have the about the same upgrade and reserve time (don't be fooled by the wholly owned people who think they are delta mainline employees). Republic and Endeavor should be at the top of your list as far as regionals go.(based on your concerns for domiciles and pay)
Pick which one suits you. Both are not going anywhere soon. Yes things change quickly in the regionals. To be honest it's about luck and timing which plays a huge part in upgrade time, where you'll end up, reserve time, etc.
And for those negative comments on the Republic BK topic. Republic is the third largest regional behind skywest and expressjet/asa. If you think any of the mainline carriers can afford RPA to fold, you're bat **** crazy. Ain't nobody got time or staffing fo dat Felicia! (Snaps fingers)
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You're first two paragraphs are contradicting....
Republic and endeavor are both REGIONALS. They both pay about the same after its all said and done. They both have the about the same upgrade and reserve time (don't be fooled by the wholly owned people who think they are delta mainline employees). Republic and Endeavor should be at the top of your list as far as regionals go.(based on your concerns for domiciles and pay)
Pick which one suits you. Both are not going anywhere soon. Yes things change quickly in the regionals. To be honest it's about luck and timing which plays a huge part in upgrade time, where you'll end up, reserve time, etc.
And for those negative comments on the Republic BK topic. Republic is the third largest regional behind skywest and expressjet/asa. If you think any of the mainline carriers can afford RPA to fold, you're bat **** crazy. Ain't nobody got time or staffing fo dat Felicia! (Snaps fingers)
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09-12-2016, 11:51 AM
#52
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I think that they both do, but they're also both pretty senior. And then as was mentioned the whole pay issue.
When I'm ready, at least from today's snap shot. I'm considering Republic, Endeavor and Compass. Skywest is nice and all, and has great and close west coast and mid-west bases. But yeah... dunno if I can get past that whole non-union thing.
When I'm ready, at least from today's snap shot. I'm considering Republic, Endeavor and Compass. Skywest is nice and all, and has great and close west coast and mid-west bases. But yeah... dunno if I can get past that whole non-union thing.
09-15-2016, 07:11 AM
#53
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Can anyone speak for the financial #'s comparing the two companies? I know there are various reasons for bankruptcy, and that doesn't mean Republic doesn't have cash. I looked at the balance sheets a bit but it was a lot of info.
Will the new AA WO's pay increase affect RAH or 9E?
Will the new AA WO's pay increase affect RAH or 9E?
09-20-2016, 12:49 PM
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Can anyone speak for the financial #'s comparing the two companies? I know there are various reasons for bankruptcy, and that doesn't mean Republic doesn't have cash. I looked at the balance sheets a bit but it was a lot of info.
Will the new AA WO's pay increase affect RAH or 9E?
Will the new AA WO's pay increase affect RAH or 9E?
09-20-2016, 02:54 PM
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Neither have the same pay as Endeavor. Mesas current pay rate is less than Endeavor. Skywests current pay rate is higher than Endeavor.
Yes Endeavor currently has a bonus but there isn't much life left in that. What happens after that is anyone's guess
Yes Endeavor currently has a bonus but there isn't much life left in that. What happens after that is anyone's guess
09-20-2016, 05:06 PM
#56
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I don't disagree with your first paragraph and I think SkyWest is a very reasonable option, but I don't understand why everyone has said for a year, "isn't much life left in that"?
There's 27 months left on the current retention bonus.
There's already management work going on to either extend it or roll it into the pay scales (they've even hinted that could happen before the end of this year).
I won't argue which regional is better, etc, that's very much a personal preference. But don't want to allow misinformation to someone either.
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09-22-2016, 11:11 PM
#57
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Please, my guess is it'll just be that much better with the rest of the industry finally trying to match Endeavor after almost 2 years. Money talks, and they are finally seeing that it gets bodies in seats, not just the promise of shiny new planes. We're headed in the right direction and it's a good thing for all of us.
As for rumors, $60/hr first year has been kicked around a lot lately. That wouldn't be too bad.
09-23-2016, 01:45 AM
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The retention bonus at 9E will eventually be rolled into pay rates, that is pretty clear. I don't know about $60/hour, but the idea is they would like to offer a better compensation package than RAH.
So expect first year pay north of $40/hour.
When this will become reality and not speculation is anyones guess, but they have been negotiating for a few months now. I would expect something by end of year 2016.
With all of that said, there is still $46,000 of retention to be had at 9E.
So expect first year pay north of $40/hour.
When this will become reality and not speculation is anyones guess, but they have been negotiating for a few months now. I would expect something by end of year 2016.
With all of that said, there is still $46,000 of retention to be had at 9E.
09-23-2016, 04:41 AM
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We have auto throttles though. And think of any city that has air service in the islands. We fly there.
You're first two paragraphs are contradicting....
Republic and endeavor are both REGIONALS. They both pay about the same after its all said and done. They both have the about the same upgrade and reserve time (don't be fooled by the wholly owned people who think they are delta mainline employees). Republic and Endeavor should be at the top of your list as far as regionals go.(based on your concerns for domiciles and pay)
Pick which one suits you. Both are not going anywhere soon. Yes things change quickly in the regionals. To be honest it's about luck and timing which plays a huge part in upgrade time, where you'll end up, reserve time, etc.
And for those negative comments on the Republic BK topic. Republic is the third largest regional behind skywest and expressjet/asa. If you think any of the mainline carriers can afford RPA to fold, you're bat **** crazy. Ain't nobody got time or staffing fo dat Felicia! (Snaps fingers)
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You're first two paragraphs are contradicting....
Republic and endeavor are both REGIONALS. They both pay about the same after its all said and done. They both have the about the same upgrade and reserve time (don't be fooled by the wholly owned people who think they are delta mainline employees). Republic and Endeavor should be at the top of your list as far as regionals go.(based on your concerns for domiciles and pay)
Pick which one suits you. Both are not going anywhere soon. Yes things change quickly in the regionals. To be honest it's about luck and timing which plays a huge part in upgrade time, where you'll end up, reserve time, etc.
And for those negative comments on the Republic BK topic. Republic is the third largest regional behind skywest and expressjet/asa. If you think any of the mainline carriers can afford RPA to fold, you're bat **** crazy. Ain't nobody got time or staffing fo dat Felicia! (Snaps fingers)
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RAH pilots love to see these increase in "1st year hourly rate" at the AA WO, but please please, can someone go over the $40/hr mark, please..
09-23-2016, 07:55 AM
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I hear you guys, and 9e should definitely be the one to do that and hopefully very soon. They realize you all are skiddish about the bonus ending in 2 years so they are going to do something by the end of this year. Last year around Christmas time they announced an loa that would take effect on the 1st that brought 1st year pay up and the bonus to $23,000/ yr among other great improvements that were needed. The thing is, they aren't gonna just throw out $45/ hr or something around there because that would be a pay cut from what we make now. That would be just over $40,000/ yr guaranteed. Right now, 1st year guys that don't even fly a lot are making $55,000! Don't expect anything less than $50-55/hr. They know noone would come here if they are offering a pay cut.
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