Republic or Endeavor?
09-05-2016, 10:34 AM
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With the growth in NYC especially 200, it's safe to say reserve will be short (but saying no reserve might be a stretch for some).
09-05-2016, 12:48 PM
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Interesting as I know of a few people sitting reserve right now at Endeavor and know someone who has been there over a year and is not close to upgrading yet.
09-05-2016, 01:00 PM
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I haven't been here a year and there were folks junior to me upgrading. Return to work with company time, but even that has been waived.
09-05-2016, 04:54 PM
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I would really love to know the full story there. One year since finishing IOE should put one close to upgrade, unless one is bidding P3 reserve, bidding MSP 900, out on leave, etc.
09-05-2016, 05:47 PM
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Thanks for reading.
I've been going nuts trying to decide on which regional to got to. I've pretty much narrowed it down to Endeavor and Republic. I have a CJO from Endeavor currently and an interview with Republic later this month.
Here is what's important to me:
- NYC Base. EWR not an option. Endeavor has JFK and LGA. RAH only LGA. If RAH pulls out of LGA, it's quite undesirable. Endeavor is making a big push for NYC, which is great imo.
- Pay/work rules. Republic's contract has higher pay rates. Endeavor has the bonus. Delta could theoretically take that away at any point. An extra guaranteed day off at republic (12) instead of Endeavor's (11) would mean 1 more day per month to pick up open time at a higher pay rate. I don't know much about the "work rules," side of it, but I've "heard," that they're not as good at RAH.
- Stability. As far as I'm concerned, every regional has the same fate - no one ever knows what it is. However, looking at the current snapshot, Endeavor has the full support of Delta. They're a top performer and it doesn't seem like they're going anywhere. Current growth looks great. I've heard mixed things about the RAH bankruptcy. Some say it's been bloody, others say the future looks bright. The new AA deal confirms that they'll most likely pull through. It seems like an unnecessary risk though. Flying for all 3 legacies can be a good thing though?
Thanks for your comments. Thoughts?
I've been going nuts trying to decide on which regional to got to. I've pretty much narrowed it down to Endeavor and Republic. I have a CJO from Endeavor currently and an interview with Republic later this month.
Here is what's important to me:
- NYC Base. EWR not an option. Endeavor has JFK and LGA. RAH only LGA. If RAH pulls out of LGA, it's quite undesirable. Endeavor is making a big push for NYC, which is great imo.
- Pay/work rules. Republic's contract has higher pay rates. Endeavor has the bonus. Delta could theoretically take that away at any point. An extra guaranteed day off at republic (12) instead of Endeavor's (11) would mean 1 more day per month to pick up open time at a higher pay rate. I don't know much about the "work rules," side of it, but I've "heard," that they're not as good at RAH.
- Stability. As far as I'm concerned, every regional has the same fate - no one ever knows what it is. However, looking at the current snapshot, Endeavor has the full support of Delta. They're a top performer and it doesn't seem like they're going anywhere. Current growth looks great. I've heard mixed things about the RAH bankruptcy. Some say it's been bloody, others say the future looks bright. The new AA deal confirms that they'll most likely pull through. It seems like an unnecessary risk though. Flying for all 3 legacies can be a good thing though?
Thanks for your comments. Thoughts?
Republic and the rest of the contract regionals have an uncertain future ahead...
09-05-2016, 07:44 PM
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Yeah ... the more and more I think about it, the more that makes sense to me too!
09-05-2016, 10:11 PM
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Being owned by Delta means everything, just look how it turned out for Comair.
09-06-2016, 02:41 AM
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Comair was a successful company for many years and was able to turn large profits. However, post 9/11, things went sour everywhere. Delta's approach to running Comair was mostly laissez-faire, or hands off. They used an aging computer system which caused a crash during Christmas eve, which crippled the Delta network for days. Things just got worse from there and finally they pulled the plug.
Pinnacle, Mesaba, Colgan etc., had a similar fate, but the bankruptcy restructuring allowed them to emerge as a Delta WO'd, but this time, Delta took over everything, from checklists to uniforms, etc.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the current fate of Endeavor looks a lot brighter than that of Comair's, simply because of Delta's involvement with the company, which is the opposite of how they ran Comair.
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