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Old 02-27-2016, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by iFlyRC
It will be interesting to see if mainline will pony up the money for RAH to keep the new pilot contract.
Not going to happen! Why pony up when you can let RAH fail and have a bunch of pilots start over flying your same routes on first year pay?
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Old 02-27-2016, 09:10 AM
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My friend, it's the same 10,000 guys with apps out at all of them and most WILL go to the first company that offers them a job. Divide 10,000 by 3 and that is the actual number they have to choose from. It's here and it's real.
Even so that's 4 years of hiring 800 a year before that pool gets low and that's excluding new applications.
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Old 02-27-2016, 10:10 AM
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Even so that's 4 years of hiring 800 a year before that pool gets low and that's excluding new applications.
If it is here and if it is real as the Doc said then Skywest wouldn't be able to hire 100 a month. The regionals might be struggling and might be raising wages but they are still filling classes. There is never going to be a prolonged shortage. The demographics were similar in the late 80's and early 90's but nothing dramatic happened then. It has been the same for the last 30 years, just wait till next year or just wait until 5 years from now. Nothing never materializes.
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Old 02-27-2016, 10:27 AM
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If it is here and if it is real as the Doc said then Skywest wouldn't be able to hire 100 a month. The regionals might be struggling and might be raising wages but they are still filling classes. There is never going to be a prolonged shortage. The demographics were similar in the late 80's and early 90's but nothing dramatic happened then. It has been the same for the last 30 years, just wait till next year or just wait until 5 years from now. Nothing never materializes.
It doesn't work like that, if the RJ industry needs 2,500 new hires a year and there are only 2000 then there is a shortage. It doesn't matter if one company is hitting their target goal.

SKW is filling classes, "the regionals" aren't. It's a self fulfilling prophecy for them, guys go there because it looks like a safe play, so more guys go there because guys are going there. Also known as the herd mentality.

They do have an advantage because their PBS work rules allow more flying to be forced on them and accomplished with a smaller number of pilots. If the company continues to push, that will eventually stop and the SKW group will realize they have leverage and regain some control over their lives.
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
If it is here and if it is real as the Doc said then Skywest wouldn't be able to hire 100 a month.
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SKW is filling classes
O'raly?

According to the folks I interviewed with less than 2 weeks ago at SKW (and I got the job offer. btw), they have not been able to get 100 a month and only have one class of 100 so far.

Don't call me a liar, call the SKW folks liars if this isn't true.
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SqueeG
O'raly?

According to the folks I interviewed with less than 2 weeks ago at SKW (and I got the job offer. btw), they have not been able to get 100 a month and only have one class of 100 so far.

Don't call me a liar, call the SKW folks liars if this isn't true.
Congrats on the job offer.

It may not be quite 100 new hires a month but it's at least 75.
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:45 AM
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And yet none of the big 4 are sending me letters or banging on my door asking me if I'd like to come to an interview or offering me a class date.

What I HAVE received are emails from various airlines advising me that they are flushing their resume' bank and telling me that I'll have to re-apply if I'm still interested in being CONSIDERED.
Ditto, I have applied at all legacies and 4 LCC's... haven't heard a peep from one of them. Someone enlighten me a tell me where this shortage is. Been in this industry close to 30 years and the best time I remember for pilot jobs was in the mid 90's. One economic downturn in a year or two will see those pilot shortage rumors all but evaporate.
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Waitingformins

If the company continues to push, that will eventually stop and the SKW group will realize they have leverage and regain some control over their lives.

Highly doubtful.
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JetDoc
My friend, it's the same 10,000 guys with apps out at all of them and most WILL go to the first company that offers them a job. Divide 10,000 by 3 and that is the actual number they have to choose from. It's here and it's real.
Apparently those same 10000 have had apps for all these years I've been hearing this.
At least change the number a little bit.
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Quite right; I've heard that 10,000 number since about 1978. It true there is a limited pool of potential hires at any moment, but the pool gets refreshed every year with new military separations, new RJ captains, changing standards (not always lowered, either), and new pilots starting out. If it was a static 10,000, we'd have run out in 1986.

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